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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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OP pics is not a timber rattler


Then what is it?


Bull n ake.


That is a rattlesnake, not a bull snake. I don’t even think there are bull snakes in PA. We have plenty on rattlesnakes. I saw one just lat weekend. They are in the top 5 most common snakes that I see here.

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Growing up in eastern Pa., a couple came off of the mtn into town.

They didn't last long...

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Originally Posted by viking
Not killing a killer is ridiculous. Get them before they get you or someone else.


Had to tell Varmintgay the same thing a few years ago....using that logic I should pull over every stupid driver I see, and kill them...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by viking
Not killing a killer is ridiculous. Get them before they get you or someone else.


Had to tell Varmintgay the same thing a few years ago....using that logic I should pull over every stupid driver I see, and kill them...



I see a lot of stupid drivers, I like the idea of killing them!

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Around here the locals call them Velvet tail Rattlers. I've seen pics of 6 footers and they were pretty darn big around too. Fortunately where I live I've never seen one. But less than 8 miles away there are some. They seem to occur in pockets here and there through out Eastern Texas.


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Years ago use to take my morning coffee in the garage so I could talk with the lads and lassies, (Pookie, Bozo, Shelia, and Audy (Murphy -cat was a badass). I step out and they're all focused and I haven't woke up yet. I then find myself the target of a very agitated -green- sidewinder. That gets real sporty.


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I kill rattlers around the house and barn.


Also any snakes that are in the house.


Wife dont like house snakes.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I kill rattlers around the house and barn.


Also any snakes that are in the house.


Wife dont like house snakes.


Has she had them in a chilli/ stew?


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Unless they are an immediate threat to ones self, children, livestock, or have taken up residence adjacent or under a cabin or home, IMO, they should be left alone to do their thing. We have no snakes in Alaska, but I have lived where they were, and encountered them (scaring the crap out of me a couple times) and felt the same then.

If it is legal, and they are wanted for meat or hide (not just the rattles) that is a different story.

Killing them otherwise is a wanton act, depriving them of the only thing the poor bastards have - their life. It is not going to make a bit of difference in the population, one way or another, so it is merely a "feel-good" act on the killer's part. No different than killing a deer or other animal "because it is there", or for the rack.

If it is illegal, then the snake killer should be prosecuted, in addition. No wink, wink, ha,ha.

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Originally Posted by Theeck
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by ldholton
OP pics is not a timber rattler


Then what is it?


Bull n ake.


That is a rattlesnake, not a bull snake. I don’t even think there are bull snakes in PA. We have plenty on rattlesnakes. I saw one just lat weekend. They are in the top 5 most common snakes that I see here.


We have no sarcasm notification you know.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I kill rattlers around the house and barn.


Also any snakes that are in the house.


Wife dont like house snakes.


Mostly like you Jim, except if I can I'll just remove them from the homestead area.

Lived in a place in AZ desert where I killed or removed 21 in a five year period. From next to the hose bib on the house wall, under the pallet the doghouse sat on, the porch, steps going down from the yard to the street. One I removed crawled under a cooler i had tipped over to dry out after rinsing it post turkey hunting. Hadn't been on the lawn a half hour. Most of the killed ones were eaten and their skins preserved. We let many go that were away from the house.

This house here, haven't seen a rattler yet but garter snakes and gopher snakes (bull snakes to some of youins) and a spattering of others. Have actually had small garter snakes get in somehow. Maybe through the side of the dog door flaps?


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Unless they are an immediate threat to ones self, children, livestock, or have taken up residence adjacent or under a cabin or home, IMO, they should be left alone to do their thing. We have no snakes in Alaska, but I have lived where they were, and encountered them (scaring the crap out of me a couple times) and felt the same then.

If it is legal, and they are wanted for meat or hide (not just the rattles) that is a different story.

Killing them otherwise is a wanton act, depriving them of the only thing the poor bastards have - their life. It is not going to make a bit of difference in the population, one way or another, so it is merely a "feel-good" act on the killer's part. No different than killing a deer or other animal "because it is there", or for the rack.

If it is illegal, then the snake killer should be prosecuted, in addition. No wink, wink, ha,ha.


Pretty much on the same page as you las, they get a pass from me most times. I hate friggen rats, mice, gophers and other rodent vermin that gets in the garden, sheds, chicken coops, and yard. If the rattler ain't near to the house, it'll likely live.


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Originally Posted by viking
Not killing a killer is ridiculous. Get them before they get you or someone else.


Had to tell Varmintgay the same thing a few years ago....using that logic I should pull over every stupid driver I see, and kill them...



I see a lot of stupid drivers, I like the idea of killing them!


I'm more for having a vaporize button on my dashboard with crosshairs so I don't smoke an innocent driver. Either that or a "Groundhog Day" button so they can keep going over and over their impropriety, endlessly, until they figure it out.

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Originally Posted by hanco
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by viking
Not killing a killer is ridiculous. Get them before they get you or someone else.


Had to tell Varmintgay the same thing a few years ago....using that logic I should pull over every stupid driver I see, and kill them...



I see a lot of stupid drivers, I like the idea of killing them!


He needs to go to S Texas or Houston or Austin and get busy.


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Originally Posted by las
Unless they are an immediate threat to ones self, children, livestock, or have taken up residence adjacent or under a cabin or home, IMO, they should be left alone to do their thing. We have no snakes in Alaska, but I have lived where they were, and encountered them (scaring the crap out of me a couple times) and felt the same then.

If it is legal, and they are wanted for meat or hide (not just the rattles) that is a different story.

Killing them otherwise is a wanton act, depriving them of the only thing the poor bastards have - their life. It is not going to make a bit of difference in the population, one way or another, so it is merely a "feel-good" act on the killer's part. No different than killing a deer or other animal "because it is there", or for the rack.

If it is illegal, then the snake killer should be prosecuted, in addition. No wink, wink, ha,ha.


Kind of like coyotes and crows, huh? smile


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buzz tails get chopped into small pieces in my space . I made a 5 ft alum. walking stick to hold the head and a razer sharp gerber jr machete to do the choppen I HATE snakes

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Originally Posted by las
Unless they are an immediate threat to ones self, children, livestock, or have taken up residence adjacent or under a cabin or home, IMO, they should be left alone to do their thing. We have no snakes in Alaska, but I have lived where they were, and encountered them (scaring the crap out of me a couple times) and felt the same then.

If it is legal, and they are wanted for meat or hide (not just the rattles) that is a different story.

Killing them otherwise is a wanton act, depriving them of the only thing the poor bastards have - their life. It is not going to make a bit of difference in the population, one way or another, so it is merely a "feel-good" act on the killer's part. No different than killing a deer or other animal "because it is there", or for the rack.

If it is illegal, then the snake killer should be prosecuted, in addition. No wink, wink, ha,ha.


an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. one of those bast*rds killer a golden retriever of mine a few years ago. And i know a number of people bit. Treatment isn't inexpensive. my golden weighed about 100pounds. I figure 2pounds per snake, or i need to blast about 50of them into eternity. i am still 30 or so short.
wanton act? no, it's intentional, feel good on the killer's part? you bet, more the better. Hate the damn things.
favorite way to do it? shotgun, and about 6 rounds of number seven. start at the head, work backwards, reload then start at the tail and work forwards. it makes it easier for the hawks and yotes to find a snack hanging on the barb wire fence.
and by the way, i don't shoot either yotes or crows.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
In all our years at my wife's place in the S Central PA mountains 9Rothrock state forest), I've never seen any. Wife is up there with her dad and our two mini Aussies and almost got bagged by it. Heard the rattle (she said it sounded like a faucet running) and the dogs alerted. She dispatched the FIRST one on Wednesday and AGAIN another yesterday. Both were pretty big (14 rattles on this one). She bagged them both with the duty 22 Ruger pistol smile

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Originally Posted by las
Unless they are an immediate threat to ones self, children, livestock, or have taken up residence adjacent or under a cabin or home, IMO, they should be left alone to do their thing. We have no snakes in Alaska, but I have lived where they were, and encountered them (scaring the crap out of me a couple times) and felt the same then.

If it is legal, and they are wanted for meat or hide (not just the rattles) that is a different story.

Killing them otherwise is a wanton act, depriving them of the only thing the poor bastards have - their life. It is not going to make a bit of difference in the population, one way or another, so it is merely a "feel-good" act on the killer's part. No different than killing a deer or other animal "because it is there", or for the rack.

If it is illegal, then the snake killer should be prosecuted, in addition. No wink, wink, ha,ha.


Sorry...you lost me at "Unless".


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i shot a four footer one time that was coiled, in the neck with a .22lr. S.O.B. got irritated and started chasing me. I won, and a long axe following, kind of like fresh snake sushi.


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I don’t kill them if I see them in the woods, and I’m always wearing snake boots. If they are in camp, close to kids and dogs, then they get culled. The average cost of treating a rattlesnake bite is around $150k, not to mention the pain and disfigurement that goes along with it. With kids and seniors, there’s a very real chance of not making it through the treatment. I don’t mind snakes so much, but there are limits.


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Yep, dead snake...

Always dead.

F u c k those buzzers

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