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Thats not a 7x57 based cartridge...but I didn't expect any more from you.... Hair splitting?
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Why go to the trouble and expense of building a .277x57 to get less performance than the common as dirt 270? Cause it's my money and I want to. And he wanted to put a burr under my saddle by taking the Ultimate Consummate cartridge and " Gaying it up"....
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Why go to the trouble and expense of building a .277x57 to get less performance than the common as dirt 270? Cause it's my money and I want to. That has been my justification for building wildcats when common commercial cartridges would have done the same thing more easily and for less money. "Digger" the undertakers says that he's never seen an armored car in a funeral procession, so spend it while you can enjoy it.Yup!!
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Why go to the trouble and expense of building a .277x57 to get less performance than the common as dirt 270? Cause it's my money and I want to. And he wanted to put a burr under my saddle by taking the Ultimate Consummate cartridge and " Gaying it up"....
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I don't know how big the Alabama whitetails get, but a well-placed bullet from a 6mm or 243 will do quite well on most deer.
The use of a heavier bullet/larger caliber is also nice.
The dilemma you face is of your choosing. I think practice, scouting and bullet selection would be more important than cartridge, so enjoy whatever you have, or want, and go forth to slay those deer!
Finding dead deer can be a bit more challenging in AL than NM. This point is often lost on those from less densely vegetated locales.
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One can never surpass the classic 7x57. Exactamundo Might by why my buddy has three I can borrow anytime Does anyone else think recoil-wise the 7x57 is like the 45 acp in handgun?its mild but not sharp ,more like a long push.and you know if you hit the target, its done for.
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One can never surpass the classic 7x57. Exactamundo To tell the truth, I have rifles chambered to all three cartridges mentioned. I usually take the 7x57 when I hunt deer and am considering using it on my next elk hunt. Paul B.
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7-30 Waters in my nephew's Winchester levergun has toppled several deer without any problems.
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Hay neck that baby to .284 and go kill chit....
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But seriously the 257 Roberts is fantastic on deer and coyotes...
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Thats not a 7x57 based cartridge...but I didn't expect any more from you.... I didn’t say it was.
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Thats not a 7x57 based cartridge...but I didn't expect any more from you.... I didn’t say it was. But that's what the OP asked for, and put in the thread title... try to keep up... I know its hard for you...
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I was quite aware of what he asked.
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I was quite aware of what he asked.
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Finding dead deer can be a bit more challenging in AL than NM. This point is often lost on those from less densely vegetated locales. A 25-06 is your huckleberry for DRTs followed by the 243 and 6mm Rem.
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There you go--7x57 is a great moose or elk rifle.
Assuming the OP is chambering in a mauser with all this 57mm talk...
The 7x57 is just too powerful for deer. Disintegrates large bucks and then they are really hard to find. I dialed way down to a 6.5x257 to keep them in one piece. It is an easy case to make and handload. More neck and more shoulder angle than the 6.5x57 (.321/.291 & 20/16 degrees). Equivalent case capacity. Too, the 6.5x57 brass is pricey. Had a 6.5x57 Brno licker, but didn't care for the nasty feeling bolt handle, weirdo safety or the nigh unto sheet metal trigger guard--barrel twist was good though, about 1-8. Plenty of throat, xtra in fact....
I use the 6mm Remington for doe hunting. Good squirrel rifle.
Personal preferences...:)
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For my deer hunting I select a cartridge not for ideal conditions where near any bullet will work, but for the worst case with enough bullet weight and energy to reach the vitals from any angle. I bought a .257 Roberts for my son and it is a very pleasant round to shoot. Factory ammo was a little harder to find locally than the more common 7x57 or my shorter case 7mm-08 equivalent. The Roberts punches above its weight though to my way of thinking it is getting into the size better suited for those ideal conditions. The .25's are intended for deer and antelope size animals and their bullets are sized accordingly. If you ever intend to hunt something larger than a deer or aren't disciplined enough to wait for a perfect shot angle, I'd sure be shooting a heavier bullet out of that 7x57. Look at it this way. Say that you saw two exactly the same rifles on the used rack at your local sport shop. One is a Roberts and one is a 7x57. Which one would most guys you know buy? Get that one.
On the 6mm question. I hear a lot of deer hunting stories here and our deer run big. Over the years I have heard more of the one that got away or tiny blood trail and long tracking stories involving the .243 than any other cartridge. Nothing scientific, just for what its worth. I had a 6mm M700 and again a pleasant shooting round, just not one that I ever took deer hunting after I'd seen them hit them with bigger bullets.
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Here in the North, deer hunting is often up close, personal, and fast. Bigger cartridges seem to have their place. I have long thought a 45-70 in a double would be cool but a 9.3x74 might be the ticket. But then I'm building a 7x57. Go figure...
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