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Last I heard on this was a large number of these cases involve THC vaping or "homebrews" of one sort or other. That would be a step up in Stupid, right up there with placing small burrowing rodents in one's poop chute. Yep
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The underclass is intent on polluting themselves. Weird and screwed up is the norm now. No way to stop it.
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You know that when they came out that “weed” had to be on the to do list.
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The underclass is intent on polluting themselves. Weird and screwed up is the norm now. No way to stop it. I’ve used one to transition away from cigarettes, as has been said it seems to be the CBD oils that are causing the problems. How does this make me “underclass”
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pretty low numbers IMHO.
OTOH who ever could think that vaping was better than smoking and if so, how much better....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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What the hell was wrong with smoking your tobacco or pot??
I am MAGA.
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The underclass is intent on polluting themselves. Weird and screwed up is the norm now. No way to stop it. Might be different where you live, but I see far fewer people vaping now than even a few years ago.Also, how many kids are vaping now compared to how many were smoking 40-50 years ago? This is not some sort of new development in human behavior.
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It appears to be the vitamin E that used as the liquid base in vape pens causing the problem. They are referring to the synthetic version of E (acetate)..not the natural E. the syn. is a petrochemical derived Molecular compound : 3,4-Dihydro-2,5,7,8-tetramethyl-2-(4,8,12-trimethyltridecyl)-2H-1-benzopyran-6-ol Natural E is a single stereoisomer. Synthetic E is a mixture of eight stereoisomers,( only one of which is the same as natural E ) The particular chemical that seems to be at the root of this is THC.
I don't think the maker intended them for use with Marijuana oils etc. but someone got that bright idea, and now Mr. Darwin has some work to do. The process of producing an extract requires solvents (Butane or Hexane) of which residuals can remain. then there are other substances like oil thinning carrier agents/compounds (Propylene Glycol and Polyethylene Glycol.) that help burn the oil more effficiently. Carrier agents contain carcinogens which when subject to high temperatures have potential to become more sinister. (known to produce carcinogens including acetaldehyde and formaldehyde) Vap flavors. Several common flavoring agents, (diacetyl, acetoin, and 2,3-pentanedione) have been linked to severe respiratory diseases; https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/p...chemicals-linked-to-respiratory-disease/One study found diacetyl can cause severe lung disease; https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/flavorings/exposure.htmlDiacetyl found in over 75% of vape liquids tested; https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1510185
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Amazing people have to be told that inhaling various chemicals daily could be harmful. People will do as people will do and there is no getting around it.
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I have never been able to understand sucking on one of those stainless steel gizmos. If I had my own dictionary the first words I would delete would be Vape and Vaping watching men do that is pretty friggin sad IMO.
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Druggies paying the consequences of indulging in their addiction in what they thought was a new and different way. The vapers I see in my area don't appear to be the sharpest pencils in the box.
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What the hell was wrong with smoking your tobacco or pot?? I think the idea is to get a hit of nicotine without setting anything on fire or even using tobacco......in theory getting away from some of the carcinogens involved in burning pesticide laden tobacco and inhaling its smoke.
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It appears to be the vitamin E that used as the liquid base in vape pens causing the problem. And in true Democrat fashion the Michigan Dems jumped up and solved the problem by banning all flavored Vaps before they even knew what was going on, Lol, they cured another problem that didn't exist..........
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It appears to be the vitamin E that used as the liquid base in vape pens causing the problem. And in true Democrat fashion the Michigan Dems jumped up and solved the problem by banning all flavored Vaps before they even knew what was going on, Lol, they cured another problem that didn't exist.......... Praise the Lord; I never would have been able to figure it all out if they hadn’t banned it. It’s toxic maternalism that is our culture’s problem.
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It appears to be the vitamin E that used as the liquid base in vape pens causing the problem. And in true Democrat fashion the Michigan Dems jumped up and solved the problem by banning all flavored Vaps before they even knew what was going on, Lol, they cured another problem that didn't exist.......... Praise the Lord; I never would have been able to figure it all out if they hadn’t banned it. It’s toxic maternalism that is our culture’s problem. It appears as if the above guys do have things figured out! Congrats, guys. When we have a culture of young dumbasses willing to kill themselves with Tide Pods, illegal vape materials, and posting videos of lighting themselves on fire, it's not too hard to get to the root cause of such deaths. Blaming "vaping" is the same as blaming the revolver when some dumbass uses one to lose at Russian Roulette.
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Old age does funny things to a person. I thought it was cool to smoke cigarettes once upon a time, and now I realize it was pretty stupid. I see vaping the same way.....it's pretty stupid to mix up a bunch of chemicals and put them into your lungs.
But, I do not go along with Big Brother telling me what I can do with my body, and what I can't. If I choose to ruin what God gave me by overeating, overdrinking, smoking, using illegal drugs, vaping, and living an unhealthy lifestyle, it should be my right to do so.........however, it should also be the right of the medical community and the taxpayers to not have to be responsible for it.
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There's a lot to that, James.
More and more, the govt doesn't trust it's subjects (citizens) with "freedom".
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What the hell was wrong with smoking your tobacco or pot?? I think the idea is to get a hit of nicotine without setting anything on fire or even using tobacco......in theory getting away from some of the carcinogens involved in burning pesticide laden tobacco and inhaling its smoke. Vaping is just a different nicotine delivery system and once a nicotine user is hooked, he/she is likely to be a customer for life. Vaping may be a safer delivery system than smoking, but the potential risk are not well known. The flavored vaping liquids seem to be aimed at minors, most of whom aren't mature enough to make an informed decision. Same as with flavored dip, lower nicotine levels in the flavored styles gets the young user hooked and they move on to styles with higher nicotine levels as their cravings grow. When I was a kid, a lot of other kids started smoking Taryton brand cigarettes and as their nicotine demand went up they moved on to Camels, Marlboros, and Winstons.
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It appears to be the vitamin E that used as the liquid base in vape pens causing the problem. And in true Democrat fashion the Michigan Dems jumped up and solved the problem by banning all flavored Vaps before they even knew what was going on, Lol, they cured another problem that didn't exist.......... This^^^^^^ X 1000 We live in America, correct?
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The particular chemical that seems to be at the root of this is THC.
I don't think the maker intended them for use with Marijuana oils etc. but someone got that bright idea, and now Mr. Darwin has some work to do. The current theory is oily vapor causing a lipoid pneumonia, which can prove fatal. Not so harmless.... DF
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