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Tikkas are so accurate that angular measuring systems had to be tightened just for them. 1 MOA for a Tikka = .84"......
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Heym06,
One minutes of angle is 1/60 of a degree, which at 100 yards is 1.047 inches, not one inch. It increases proportionately with range:
200 yards--2.094" 300 yards--3.141" 600 yards--6.282" (1/2 MOA at 600 is 3.141" 1000 yards--10.470"
The math is very simple. What's not simple, apparently, is convincing shooters that one inch is not one MOA. You are right. Been trying to convince people for years that a .25 inch group beats a .25 MOA group everyday. Some just don’t get math.
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I wondered the same thing and the few I knew that had one all said the same thing, "tack drivers" out of the box. So I bought a Superlite in 6.5 Creed and cut the barrel at 22 inches and tossed a 3-9 SWFA on it and by golly, "tack driver".
I liked it so much that I bought the big CTR in 6.5 Creed for range use and put a Bushnell 4.5-18 LRHSi on it and "tack driver". I mean every one that shoots that big gun from the bench is a "tack driver". Good barrel, good trigger, etc.
I am now thinking a 21" barreled peep sighted Superlite in .358 Winny with a 10 round mag. might make a good "tack driver" big bear gun for hikes here in Alaska and when fishing the salmon streams. Or how about a Superlite in the 7mm WSM, a real long range "tack driver".
I like the rifles and I am a hard core walnut and blued steel Mod. 70 user since I was a kid. I did the same thing, except after I bought my first CTR, I was so impressed with it, that I bought another CTR. At my clubs last centerfire/precision rifle shoot, I even felt guilty for pulling the CTR with Nightforce out. I could have been just as happy with my Savage, but no one of my buddies begged me to pull the CTR out: I actually like my Tikka's better than my Sako long range hunter, but that rifle actually shoots pretty good too: Furthermore, I don't care if you guys are measuring moa or inches, it's a no brainer that Tikka's just shoot....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I would bet Chuck Norris would like a Tikka rifle.
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Tikka Superlite 708 They suck
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Pretty fascinating really to see a "box" rifle get this much praise, considering that there are so many options out there today, not that they are all that much to write home about. I don't need another rifle really but I will be sure to check out a Tikka next time I can get my hands on one. I'm a dyed in the wool Win 70 fan but I suppose I still capable of learning something from time to time.
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Accuracy, affordability, lack of quality built affordable, American rifles produced, accuracy (I like accuracy ). memtb
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i'm with you mem as in i LIKE accuracy too and can overlook alot of "deficiencies" whether actually there or perceived if i get the accuracy that Tikka rifles wayyyy more so than not provide. Big Ed
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What sets them apart from other box rifles? Everything's already been covered, but below are the reasons I've been using and recommending tikkas above all the other options. And I've put them in rough order of importance to me:
Action - smoother than anything I've tried, and more reliable, I've never had any feeding, extraction, ejection, or other issues, can't stand that happening with hunting rifles, they're supposed to work, every time
Trigger - crisp and light out of the box, simple turn of a screw puts them at ~2lbs
Scope mounting - I like the warne and sportsmatch rings, clamp directly to the receiver, it's solid, and simple
Stock - ergonomic enough, stiffer than most, bedding is pretty optional, unlike most Accuracy - I've had one tikka before that didn't shoot very well, other than that, all the others are more consistently accurate than most other rifles I've had to tweak to be accurate, and that's straight out of the box
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I bought a new T3 SS in .260 before the Creedmoor Craze and was pretty jacked because of the Tikka's cred but it shot ho-hum. Did some checking and found some contact between stock and barrel. Fixed it. Noticed some scarring on the aluminum recoil lug. Installed a titanium aftermarket lug from Lumleys. Found that my mag length wouldn't let me seat VLD bullets very close to the lands. Modified the bolt stop and the magazine to allow a longer OAL. And now it shoots like I expected. Maybe even better.
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Correct I was thinking one inch. I with draw the be part!
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Bought my first Tikka 20 years ago....... 595 in 7-08......ordered blue syn.......... opened the box & it was SS/syn.....dammmm Never got a bad one.all shot well & action was a smooth as a baby's azz........ Prob my least fav was a SS/varmint 223 T3.....shot OK...... but my all time fav was this one in 6.5x55.....G/kids have it now in AZ.......
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A little shine has come off Tikka's with their current pricing. They are no longer a lot cheaper than a 700 or similar.
However, quality is still what it has been
I don't have any customs to compare to, but many have complained that the out of box Tikka out shoots their custom.
Mine have been easy. My standards are low, my efforts match. Everything that goes into the chamber is fine. 1 inch is easy. I'm happy.
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A little shine has come off Tikka's with their current pricing. They are no longer a lot cheaper than a 700 or similar. I paid 495.00 for my walnut/blue Tikka 595 back in 2000. Priced a 700 BDL at the time and it also was 495.00 at the same shop where I bought the Tikka.
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Accuracy. Tikkas are usually VERY accurate, especially the heavy-barreled models, which have lapped bores... One more data point in the accuracy population (or 12 more if you want to count it that way). These are the very first 12 groups from my brand new T3x 6.5 CM Varmint model. Had it out this morning, fired one shot to sight in and then started shooting groups. That group on the left in the top row represents the 2nd through 6th rounds down the barrel, they went into a .386" group for 5 shots. The others are 4 shot groups. I'm a real mediocre bench rest shooter and have a bad habit of throwing a flyer out of a group, otherwise the numbers here would be even better than they are. These 12 groups represent two different bullets - Hornady 123 A-Max and 140 ELD-M, with two different powders for each bullet, RL-17 and H4350, two different charge weights for each powder with two radically different bullet seating depths. The absolute worst group is the middle in the third row and even with that flyer went into .811". The very best is the left one fourth row down, 4 shots into .236". Average of all 12 groups is .504". Most of these even with the flyers are in the low .4's to low .5's. Count me among the satisfied Tikka shooters. The only thing I kick myself over is that if I had bought this in a .270 it would really shoot....
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That is some awesome shooting Jim. That Tikka Varmint package is a superb looking setup. Congrats.
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Never owned one, but the used ones I've fondled at gunshops have been impressively smooth. Would certainly consider one if I was in the market, which I ain't, REALLY Honey, I swear!
Still don't care for the mag hanging down, or the plastic in places I don't think it should be, but those are quibbles.
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I had heard of them and while buying my hunting & fishing license in 2005 I asked the salesman what kind of rifle that was in the rack? He said Tikka, they're made by Sako. I said I had a Sako and it was heavier than I liked. He handed it to me and I said it feels lite and good, but I don't need a rifle today. Go ahead and snap the trigger a few times, I did and I wanted it!
The action was so smooth! The integral scope base grooves were straight which I liked because it would allow me to fit any kind of scope and spread the rings tow here I wanted them. After I bought it, I felt lucky to get an accurate one. As they became more popular I realized they were all accurate and I bought another in stainless.
Between my Tikka's and M700's (with replaced trigger assemblies) they have replaced my interest in M70 completely.
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