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You don't have to fill the case with powder!

You don't have to fill the case with powder!

Forty or more years ago, you weren't worth damn in Wyoming if you did't shoot a 270 for Elk. We shot a boat load with 150 Core Lock's off the self in a factory Remington box. Once I started hand loading we tried the Nosler Partitions and after several Elk we all decided there wasn't much difference and went back to the old Remingtons. I haven't shot them in a long while, but something never change.

What kind of long range groups did you get?

I could not get the 145 eldx to group worth a darn, 1.5" at best with 4831 SC.

This^^^. My brother killed so many bull elk with my post 64 fwt schnable and 140 Frontier Hornadys InterLock I had to make him a deal on it. Dayom I miss that gun and cartridge.

I shot one buck head on in the chest. Bullet was a lump under the skin on the rump and fell out when the butt was peeled.

Another good buck jumped from its bed and ran dead away. A Texas heart shot ended his day. Hanging to skin it and the bullet was a lump under the skin on the neck and fell out when it was peeled.

Waiting for the ones on the 308 and 30-06.


Okie John

The "science is settled" on those.😛

Switch,

Actually, somethings do change.

Forty years ago Pointed Soft-Point Core-Lokts has MUCH heavier jackets along the shank the of the bullet than they do now, the reason the acted much like Partitions. They don't have those heavy jackets anymore. The change occurred in the early 1990s.

Will see what RL-16 does this weekend. Loaded some up. 4831 has seemed to be the best so far, with 4350 second, but only with Barnes 140 TSX. Sako 85.

That's a shame, I didn't realize of this change. As I said I haven't used them in awhile. Most of my hunting theses days is with a Bob and Nosler Ballistic Tips'.

These days Ballistic Tips are tougher than Core-Lokts. We have had great luck with the 100 and 115-grain BT's in the .257 Roberts for quite a while now.

The exception might be the round-nose Core-Lokts. Those retained the heavy shank-jacket after the PSP's did not--but I haven't bought any in quite a while, so dunno.

I'll be looking forward to that one. At one point I had several 7Mags. Killed a bunch of game with them. Somehow they all got away from me. Feels like I need to get another one.

True, my friend, but when you have as much H4831 as I do, I still drop it. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Help me out here guys. I have only shot six deer in my 69 years and my mediocre hunting career. All of them were Alaska's little Sika Black-tailed island deer and all were does. Because of the islands brown bear population I carried a 30-06 and 165 grain Partitions, one neck shot and five lung shots. All the deer ran like heck for about forty yards and fell over. I mean they scooted and I was thankful for the snow and blood trail. Those little suckers ran further then any moose I have ever shot. All bullets passed through the deer and none were over 100 yards when shot.

A friend shot his two deer with a .223 Rem. and some flavor of a 55 grain bullet, another friend used a .270 Win. on two deer and another a .35 Whelan on two deer. All were under 100 yards and one shot kills.

It is my understanding some white tails in the north, like Canada, can be much bigger then in the rest of America. Does it really matter much what expanding bullet one puts through a deer's lungs? Do those Berger's really drop them with a lung shot? Are there any Berger's suitable for big brown bears?

Forty yards isn't excessive for a lung shot, or even a heart/lung shot. I'd say it's actually typical. High shoulder shots drop 'em right there, so they say, but the ones I've made were accidental.

Can we put in requests? How about the much overlooked .280 Rem loaded to its full potential? If JOC was having one made at the time of his death, there had to be a reason (and frankly I'd love to know what it was).

I was going to request the 7x57 but I believe you did that one recently.

I'm thinking about starting a thread on this very issue. It's been a long hot summer in Florida,and I've been doing some reading about mountain hunting. A lot of the guys that chased sheep in the Asian mountains in the 1980s through the early 2000s were using pretty heavy rifles in serious altitude with rugged terrain. And they were doing so even when lighter rifles were coming into vogue. Today, most of us cringe about hauling a nine pound rifle into a deer stand. Interesting, huh?

Appearently, the Grand Poobah, Ingwe, Ruler in Chief of the Merry Band of turdlike People, is growing lenient of late.
There is no way, such statement would have gone unchecked and the stater not met with hellfire and brimstone in the olden days.

Shall he henceforce be now known as Maximus the Merciful.

.270 not gay.

I thought I was the only one to notice that.