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I have a very decent #2 Rolling block that needs a barrel reline. Heard that nobody relines CF barrels. Any help out there.
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel.
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel. It will be on the way to Mr Taylor.
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Butch, if it doesn't work out with Mr Taylor, give Dennis Erhardt a call at Frontier Gunshop, Helena, MT
I am..........disturbed.
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I did send it to Dennis. John was further out timewise.
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Butch, Appreciate you keeping us posted on progress and outcome.
Dumb question for all: Would a reline and rechamber to .32 H&R Mag work in that old Remington?
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Butch, Appreciate you keeping us posted on progress and outcome.
Dumb question for all: Would a reline and rechamber to .32 H&R Mag work in that old Remington? Man, I don't know. My bro in law has a 32 H&R mag in a pistol. I do like the round. I would just visit with the person that is doing the job.
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Which begs the question, since Rollers have been factory chambered rounds in such rounds as the venerable 7x57, which has a SAAMI max of ~49,000psi vs. ~45,000psi for the .327, wouldn't it be safe to chamber one in .327 Federal Mag?
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I have a little #4 RB in 22 RF. They also made this action in 32 Rim but I don't think the smaller action would hold up against those magnum rds if converted to Ctr Fire.
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I have a little #4 RB in 22 RF. They also made this action in 32 Rim but I don't think the smaller action would hold up against those magnum rds if converted to Ctr Fire.
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I have a little #4 RB in 22 RF. They also made this action in 32 Rim but I don't think the smaller action would hold up against those magnum rds if converted to Ctr Fire. Don, mine is a #2 centerfire already. I probably wouldn't use your rimfire and convert it to the 327
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel. It will be on the way to Mr Taylor. Is John Taylor taking any work in? Last time I contacted him he wasn't. Said he was full for the next year. I am looking to reline an old Winchester Model 94 in 38-55
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel. It will be on the way to Mr Taylor. Is John Taylor taking any work in? Last time I contacted him he wasn't. Said he was full for the next year. I am looking to reline an old Winchester Model 94 in 38-55 John was too far out on time for my schedule. It is at Dennis Erhardt's shop. My initial feelings are very positive with Dennis.
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel. It will be on the way to Mr Taylor. Is John Taylor taking any work in? Last time I contacted him he wasn't. Said he was full for the next year. I am looking to reline an old Winchester Model 94 in 38-55 John was too far out on time for my schedule. It is at Dennis Erhardt's shop. My initial feelings are very positive with Dennis. Will you let me know how he did when it is done?
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Most any gunsmith worth the title should be able to reline that barrel. It will be on the way to Mr Taylor. Is John Taylor taking any work in? Last time I contacted him he wasn't. Said he was full for the next year. I am looking to reline an old Winchester Model 94 in 38-55 John was too far out on time for my schedule. It is at Dennis Erhardt's shop. My initial feelings are very positive with Dennis. Will you let me know how he did when it is done? I've been accused of mowing Tpost, stumps, and other things, but I will not get off my horse (tractor) to move the items. I will keep you in the loop on Dennis.
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Dennis called and sait it was done. I may have mentioned that he bushed and remachined the rolling block face and made a new firing pin for it. Hope to have it back in a couple weeks.
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Mr. Lambert,
I have a Steven’s Favorite that needs action springs & maybe a couple of manufactured parts. Would your man Dennis, take that work in you think?
Was able to dig up three # 4’s at Tulsa this weekend. One is a beauty being it’s 84 years old. Two are great in their own right. You posting the picture of your 45-70 started me on a quest for one. Having never paid much attention to them as a single shot enthusiast, I can’t believe I have done myself such a disservice for so long. Now, I can’t turn one down hardly.
I tip my hat to you.
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I can't answer for Dennis on this. When I did my Favorite I found an elderly gentleman in Grand Prairie, Texas that sold NOS Stevens parts. I need to search for his contact and put it close in hand. They are neat little rifles.
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I can't answer for Dennis on this. When I did my Favorite I found an elderly gentleman in Grand Prairie, Texas that sold NOS Stevens parts. I need to search for his contact and put it close in hand. They are neat little rifles. Basically a falling block .22. I am really excited about it. Very high quality.
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I can't answer for Dennis on this. When I did my Favorite I found an elderly gentleman in Grand Prairie, Texas that sold NOS Stevens parts. I need to search for his contact and put it close in hand. They are neat little rifles. Basically a falling block .22. I am really excited about it. Very high quality. Yes Sir, I know the Favorites. I did one a few years ago for my best friend. This is another place for Favorite parts. http://www.wisnersinc.com/model/stevens-favorite-1889-1894-1915/Saddlesore, 2 months turn around ain't bad and he was able to fix the firing pin and rollingblock problem while he had it. Should have it in a week or two.
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Thanks Butch.When had Taylor do my 38-40, it was just shy of a year.
I will be at the range tomorrow tinkering with this 38-55. That will help me decide to re-line or not.
Muledeer suggested I try Dyna Tec on the bore first.
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Thanks Butch.When had Taylor do my 38-40, it was just shy of a year.
I will be at the range tomorrow tinkering with this 38-55. That will help me decide to re-line or not.
Muledeer suggested I try Dyna Tec on the bore first. How did it shoot? I hope the RB comes today, if not Monday.
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Thanks Butch.When had Taylor do my 38-40, it was just shy of a year.
I will be at the range tomorrow tinkering with this 38-55. That will help me decide to re-line or not.
Muledeer suggested I try Dyna Tec on the bore first. How did it shoot? I hope the RB comes today, if not Monday. The Dyna Tec has helped with the fouling. I ran about 30 rounds thru it without any of them keyholing, but they were mild loads. Right now, I don't know if the key holing was due to excessive lead fouling or undersized bullets. I need to find some .381 diameter bullets to see if that will improve things. I will be ordering some .380's Monday. If they don't workout, I will order some not sized and have the guy powder coat them. Should bring them up to.381
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Thanks Butch.When had Taylor do my 38-40, it was just shy of a year.
I will be at the range tomorrow tinkering with this 38-55. That will help me decide to re-line or not.
Muledeer suggested I try Dyna Tec on the bore first. How did it shoot? I hope the RB comes today, if not Monday. The Dyna Tec has helped with the fouling. I ran about 30 rounds thru it without any of them keyholing, but they were mild loads. Right now, I don't know if the key holing was due to excessive lead fouling or undersized bullets. I need to find some .381 diameter bullets to see if that will improve things. I will be ordering some .380's Monday. If they don't workout, I will order some not sized and have the guy powder coat them. Should bring them up to.381 Someplace in one of my drawers I have several rounds of 9.3X55 marked ammo. It is loaded in 38-55 brass. I know nothing about them. It came from the estate of one of my old shooting friends.
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Someplace in one of my drawers I have several rounds of 9.3X55 marked ammo. It is loaded in 38-55 brass. I know nothing about them. It came from the estate of one of my old shooting friends.
The 9.3 is indeed .376 which I hear newer 38-55's are. (Like Winchester's.375) . Older ones tend to be on the.379-.380 diameter.Wonder how case dimensions compare. However, I have only been in this 38-55 business a few months and slowly finding out that there is a lot that I don't know about what I don't know.  A few years ago I came into possession of a Single Action Colt in about1900 mfgr. Part of it was pre smokeless and the part that mattered was smokeless. . I had heck of a time matching bullets.The cylinder was 38-40 sized, but the barrel was .401. It turned out thru research that Colt had lot more .401 barrels than 38-40 so they used them instead..The biggest cast bullet could get chambered was .403. I got it shooting, but POI is 2'' high and 3"left. I can't find any lighter bullets than the std 180gr to get it to shoot lower,and no one wants to turn the barrel to correct the windage. Then I had Taylor reline the Marlin 94 and it takes smaller bullet .Decided then to not get into custom bullet molds and bullet casting.
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Function tested it today. It shoots great with the old sights just where they were before sending it out. Offhand at 30yds I hit a tin can.
I'm happy. I'm going to try to redo the original wood and then off to Turnbull.
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Dennis called and sait it was done. I may have mentioned that he bushed and remachined the rolling block face and made a new firing pin for it. Hope to have it back in a couple weeks. Good Heavens, that didn't take long at all!! That sounds like the makings of a heck of a small game rifle. The .32H&R has always intrigued me. I've been wanting one. I just missed an 1885 on Gunbroker, and I'm still kicking myself. Do we get to see some pictures??
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Dennis called and said it was done. I may have mentioned that he bushed and remachined the rolling block face and made a new firing pin for it. Hope to have it back in a couple weeks. Good Heavens, that didn't take long at all!! That sounds like the makings of a heck of a small game rifle. The .32H&R has always intrigued me. I've been wanting one. I just missed an 1885 on Gunbroker, and I'm still kicking myself. Do we get to see some pictures?? I am famous for posting photos, but my hosting places, photobucket and TinyPic have been taken over by Google. I can no longer post them or email them. I guess I need to get my Great Grand Daughter to help me get it straightened out. Yes, they have disappeared from my computer. I think they are on my hard drive.
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Dennis called and said it was done. I may have mentioned that he bushed and remachined the rolling block face and made a new firing pin for it. Hope to have it back in a couple weeks. Good Heavens, that didn't take long at all!! That sounds like the makings of a heck of a small game rifle. The .32H&R has always intrigued me. I've been wanting one. I just missed an 1885 on Gunbroker, and I'm still kicking myself. Do we get to see some pictures?? I am famous for posting photos, but my hosting places, photobucket and TinyPic have been taken over by Google. I can no longer post them or email them. I guess I need to get my Great Grand Daughter to help me get it straightened out. Yes, they have disappeared from my computer. I think they are on my hard drive. I'm about the furthest thing from computer savvy. I've been using that Imgur app, and it works great. Now you got me hunting #2's on GB!! Thanks alot.
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By the way, what are you going to do for a sight on that #2? I can't seem to find any tang sights that would fit?
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By the way, what are you going to do for a sight on that #2? I can't seem to find any tang sights that would fit? Since it is a tin can shooter the factory sights are good enough for me.
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