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This is why .270 is so weak in terms of terminal performance on large game. fascinating! Interesting! I've heard they bounce off? A high sectional density bullet will always bounce further than a low sectional density bullet given they are bullets of equal construction and of equal velocity.
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I am assuming he was being facetious
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If hunting, low recoil and high SD generally correspond to lower velocity and less bullet expansion. I’ll trade weight and SD for velocity (with a good game bullet) for typical hunting ranges, any day. There’s generally a balance. High SD bullets at moderate velocities have always killed stuff, but they’ve never been as emphatic as stuff going faster, regardless of SD. Just observations on #s and use. A 200gr .35 doesn’t have a very good SD ratio, but they penetrate out of proportion, in most cases I’ve seen.
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I am assuming he was being facetious Then you assume wrong. The .270 has a poor track record on larger animals - atrocious with the 130s, and merely bad with the 140s and 150s. There is a 160gr Partition that offers adequate terminal performance, but it's got a very poor BC. There are also bullets like the 180gr Weldcore that offer both a reasonable BC and excellent terminal performance, but which are not usable in a 1:10" factory rifle. Winchester screwed the goat when they picked the twist rate initially, and the cartridge has been saddled with their mistake ever since. The .264WM with the 160 Weldcore for elk and the 130gr Accubond for smaller stuff trounces it. Even the Creedmoor is better.
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I am assuming he was being facetious No, he's legitimately that much of a stupidasss.
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Um. Dead animal = bullet that did not fail. By definition.
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I don't know. Let's ask the Swedes. De fungerar mycket bra! John
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I am assuming he was being facetious No, he's legitimately that much of a stupidasss. I thought he was being facetious as well! I believe his last post corrected that assumption. Las, if we'd just pay closer attention to JG's words of wisdom we would struggle less and understand more. 😁
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I am assuming he was being facetious Then you assume wrong. The .270 has a poor track record on larger animals - atrocious with the 130s, and merely bad with the 140s and 150s. Lotta dead large game animals disagree with you.
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I am assuming he was being facetious No, he's legitimately that much of a stupidasss. +29
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This is why .270 is so weak in terms of terminal performance on large game. fascinating! Interesting! I've heard they bounce off? A high sectional density bullet will always bounce further than a low sectional density bullet given they are bullets of equal construction and of equal velocity. It’s not a bounce as much as it is a skip. Almost like a ricochet. I think it’s the animal’s hair that does it. Something about the texture. P
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This is why .270 is so weak in terms of terminal performance on large game. fascinating! Interesting! I've heard they bounce off? A high sectional density bullet will always bounce further than a low sectional density bullet given they are bullets of equal construction and of equal velocity. It’s not a bounce as much as it is a skip. Almost like a ricochet. I think it’s the animal’s hair that does it. Something about the texture. P 😁😁😁
Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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Do low recoil cartridges with high sectional density projectiles kill above there pay grade? 😁
1. really depends on shot placement. 2. its not that they kill above their pay grade - more that the bigger boomers are somewhat over-rated.
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I've several 6.5X55, and 6.5X57 shots where the dang bullet just skipped right through. Made a mess going through however. From 120's to the old Barnes original bullet 165's.
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Um. Dead animal = bullet that did not fail. By definition. Well that's the stupidest thing I've seen all week Nearly every wounded animal ends up a dead animal EVENTUALLY. That doesn't mean an adequately deep and wide wound was delivered to ensure a humane and timely kill with the animal near the location it was shot and a sizable blood trail to follow if it moves.. A bullet success is a bullet that a) expands and b) has the capability to penetrate the thickness of the animal and exit, including breaking skeletal bones if need be, on a side or quartering shot. It's entirely possible to have an animal drop quickly from a total bullet failure IF you get lucky. Is you plan to count on luck?
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Well my intent was not to describe a wounded animal which eventually died. And people reading without an agenda knew that.
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When you have a projectile that penetrates very shallow, wounded animals with little or no blood trail are exactly what you get. Intent has nothing to do with it. That's why, for large game, sectional density is king.
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I am assuming he was being facetious No, he's legitimately that much of a stupidasss. +29 +30
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I am assuming he was being facetious No, he's legitimately that much of a stupidasss. +29 +30 After reading his latest two efforts I'm going to give a "plus" to my own post......can I do that? +31
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