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beretzs, I think you're right. If you hit a thin skin animal, or even a hog, at hyper velocity, stuff's gonna fly, even with a solid mono. I think hyper velocity rounds are good for long range, fighting wind, etc. With turrets and range finders, you really don't need all that speed to reach way out there, except for cross wind. Getting there quicker is the best way to beat the wind, at least for a hunter without wind flags, etc. A few years ago, I was shooting an 80 gr TTSX at 3,600 fps out of my .240 Wby. I shot a doe at 125 yds. I got a LOT of cavitation as they call it, but all outside the chest cavity. Had to find her in the woods at night with flashlights. Very little tissue damage inside the chest cavity, mostly a pass thru.. The S.D. on that bullet is less than .2. So, on game it seems one has to balance bullet construction, even the S.D. with velocity for the acceptable terminal performance. DF
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Which begs the question, are these rounds really worth having if you’re not shooting at animals 500 yards away?
30/30 it is!
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beretzs, I think you're right. If you hit a thin skin animal, or even a hog, at hyper velocity, stuff's gonna fly, even with a solid mono. I think hyper velocity rounds are good for long range, fighting wind, etc. With turrets and range finders, you really don't need all that speed to reach way out there, except for cross wind. Getting there quicker is the best way to beat the wind, at least for a hunter without wind flags, etc. A few years ago, I was shooting an 80 gr TTSX at 3,600 fps out of my .240 Wby. I shot a doe at 125 yds. I got a LOT of cavitation as they call it, but all outside the chest cavity. Had to find her in the woods at night with flashlights. Very little tissue damage inside the chest cavity, mostly a pass thru.. The S.D. on that bullet is less than .2. So, on game it seems one has to balance bullet construction, even the S.D. with velocity for the acceptable terminal performance. DF Whoever thought we would have to worry about bullets failing(by that I mean less than ideal performance) because they hit the target so fast that they don’t have time to expand in the target. Haha.
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Jesus Christ, “hunting” for “meat” stopped back in the 70’s..... hint
Do love the meat hunters though!!! Haha
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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beretzs, I think you're right. If you hit a thin skin animal, or even a hog, at hyper velocity, stuff's gonna fly, even with a solid mono. I think hyper velocity rounds are good for long range, fighting wind, etc. With turrets and range finders, you really don't need all that speed to reach way out there, except for cross wind. Getting there quicker is the best way to beat the wind, at least for a hunter without wind flags, etc. A few years ago, I was shooting an 80 gr TTSX at 3,600 fps out of my .240 Wby. I shot a doe at 125 yds. I got a LOT of cavitation as they call it, but all outside the chest cavity. Had to find her in the woods at night with flashlights. Very little tissue damage inside the chest cavity, mostly a pass thru.. The S.D. on that bullet is less than .2. So, on game it seems one has to balance bullet construction, even the S.D. with velocity for the acceptable terminal performance. DF For sure DF, no exactly correct answer. I’ve seen elk [bleep] with the 7 Mashburn torn up real bad from a 175 BBC at 200 yards. All Of the fast movers can hurt the eating parts. I’d think the monks or Swift Scirocco types would keep it as minimal as possible. I guess we will keep having to hunt things and get to the truth!
Semper Fi
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What reloading companies have data ?
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Viking, 6.5 stw, 6.5 weatherby has been around for years.... run it, smash shiit, collect bone... it’s that simple... it will flat crush shiit...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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What reloading companies have data ? The 6.5-300 Wby round is actually quite old, as from the early '70's. It was known as the WWH, Weatherby, Wright, Hoyer. So, you can Google the 6.5-300 WWH for data, although they'd be using vintage powder, same issue I have with Water's Pet Loads. Great info, just dated. You may want to start with 26 Nosler data. Those two are pretty close, the Wby having slightly more capacity, IIRC. So, 26 Nos loads should be a safe starting point for the Wby. In my 26 Nos, I like 869. It seems slow enough to perform really well. I also use 872, a Vulcan pull down powder sold by Jeff Bartlett. It's much cheaper and I see no difference. I get the same velocities with the same bullets and same charges, both powders. Give Jeff a call; he knows his stuff. https://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.htmlDF
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Thanks for the information.DF
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I picked up the package today, and two boxes of A frames.
Now to shoot it sometime soon.
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Nice let us know how she does
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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It’s a beast, that needs to be harnessed. I just shot 6 rounds a little while ago. Got it on paper is all. I need to have a better rest..other then a Chevy hood.
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I would say recoil is brisk, very fast. Like a 300 WM with 150’s. This load is supposed to be almost 3400fps (140).
I swear I saw flames one time😂
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