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A while back I decided to acquire a scope with a reputation as being bulletproof and bought this 20x Super Sniper off a guy on another forum. The purpose of it all was to verify a rifle's true accuracy potential in order to be able to detect any performance degradation in any of my junky old Leupolds. I was using the SS on my Swift (normally fitted with a VX-3 6.5-20x) yesterday, and this happened: I'm pretty sure SWFA will take care of me, but I'm not real pleased. Bulletproof? I guess, not so much...I find the situation to be somewhat ironic.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Dare I say it...shoulda bought a Leupold.
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The forkin thing fell off. I was opening the bolt after a shot and there was some contact with the elevation turret, but it's not like I was holding the rifle steady by the turret. It just popped right off. It looks to me like the threads in the turret housing are stripped or failed.
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Dare I say it...shoulda bought a Leupold. What happened, as in....did the rifle fall onto the concrete, scope first, and the turret was knocked off, or did the turret come off in his hand while dialling it? It makes a difference Of course all scopes have a given rate of failure, SWFA fixed powers just have a much lower rate than most.
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The forkin thing fell off. I was opening the bolt after a shot and there was some contact with the elevation turret, but it's not like I was holding the rifle steady by the turret. It just popped right off. It looks to me like the threads in the turret housing are stripped or failed. Thanks for clarifying. That sucks.
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The forkin thing fell off. I was opening the bolt after a shot and there was some contact with the elevation turret, but it's not like I was holding the rifle steady by the turret. It just popped right off. It looks to me like the threads in the turret housing are stripped or failed. Thanks for clarifying. That sucks. I know. What gets me is the irony of the whole thing, given the reason I bought it in the first place. The rifle wasn't shooting very well at all, and maybe the bulletproof scope was the reason. I guess it just had to be me.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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The forkin thing fell off. I was opening the bolt after a shot and there was some contact with the elevation turret, but it's not like I was holding the rifle steady by the turret. It just popped right off. It looks to me like the threads in the turret housing are stripped or failed. Thanks for clarifying. That sucks. It happens...one of the first things I learnt in life was 'when everything is going well that is the time to look behind you to see what is going to bite you on the arse'.
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Another way of saying it is "the odds of disaster increase each day that nothing goes wrong."
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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It's bullet proof, not you proof! Chit!
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Previous owner. Unknown abuse or accident ?
lease keep us posted as to what SWFA says or does in this matter.
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Maybe so, but I dunno why the previous owner might have removed the turret. We'll see what SWFA's response is.
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I do gotta laugh, as this is more common than what’s reported, according to texts/pm’s, but folks don’t wanna hear from the 24 hcf quality control know it all police.... 🤣🤣
Carry on...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I’m no fan-boy but, who knows what the previous owner(s) did to this scope.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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How about some high resolution close ups while you’ve got this one apart. It’d be happy to post/host the images, just PM me for an email address.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I’m no fan-boy but, who knows what the previous owner(s) did to this scope. Was this ‘boomers beta scope for the mod?
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OP, I’ve seen it a couple of times. Each time the person spun the turret to the end of travel and continued cranking- once with a pair of pliers. Is it a SWFA or Tasco version? I do gotta laugh, as this is more common than what’s reported, according to texts/pm’s, but folks don’t wanna hear from the 24 hcf quality control know it all police.... 🤣🤣
Carry on... Yep it is more common than is reported.... about 5% of SWFA fixed powers have an issue inside of 10,000 rounds. Versus nearly 100% of Leupolds and Vortex’s. So what is it that drives you to say and do the above? Is it that you doubt the people who see dozens to hundreds of scopes a year get shot, tested, and used are being honest? Is it that you doubt that those people see that amount of use? There is no one that has said SWFA SS scopes have a 0% failure rate. Every item has a failure rate. Some items have low enough rates as to be almost surprising. Some have enough failures that it is expected quickly. It isn’t about shooting a deer at 60 yards. Hell a $100 POS muzzle loader from Walmart and a BSA scope will do that. So all bs aside, how many SWFA SS and Nightforce scopes have you used, and how much use on those scopes?
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Bought some used scopes before. Never again. Like my brother told me about a used truck one time. He ain’t selling it because he’s in love with the SOB. Ed k
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