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Spud type? Wheeler has one that's magnetic?
Do I NEED daylight green or not? Such limited time, it'd be great to get things close at home, from the couch.
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I've tried some that belonged to others. They wouldn't save me a single round of ammo nor one minute of my time getting a rifle zeroed. With a bolt gun I can get my 1st shot significantly closer to the aiming point by simply looking through the bore at an object at home or at the range and adjusting the sights than I can with the laser bore sight tools. Irons or optics. On guns where it is harder to bore sight I just use a target big enough that I can't miss at 50 yards. All you need to do is get the 1st shot on paper, it doesn't matter if it is 12" or 1/2" from your aiming point.
The "tools" are only going to get you 3-4" from your aiming point. Figure out the distance you're off, adjust sights the proper amount and the 2nd shot will be at the aiming point. Fire 2 shots at 50, then one at 100 then fine tune and you're zerod at 100 with 3 shots. Then you can start shooting groups.
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Anyone handle the Wheeler magnetic green?
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I've never used one. I have witnessed many rifles fail to get on paper that had been "professionally" laser boresighted.
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Indeed, "professional" is highly variable!
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To spud or no spud is the question. If the Wheeler has no mechanism for centering with the bore, how could it possibly work?
BTW, getting onto a 16" square at 50 yards rather than starting at 10 or 15 would be a plus. Have 10 rifles ready to go. Some are not conducive to looking through the bore. BTDT
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Don't get them too close at home, or you won't have to leave the couch.
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I have owned both the red and green magnetic laser bore sighters. They work pretty well. You get a reflective sheet to put up so the laser dot shows up better. I haven't needed the sheet thus far. I have even used it out my back window looking at my neighbor's stockade fence. Just remember to remove the bore sighter before shooting if you're using it at the range!! As I recall, I paid more for the green one as it shows up better. It does show up better. I gave the red one to a shooting buddy. I have no trouble seeing the dot at 50 yards.
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Thanks. I fondled the red and it'd be perfectly usable for what I have in mind. Easily visible in the showroom. But I have located the green cheap so buying it. I thought about it intensely and managed to walk out without spending any money. I avoid sales tax whenever possible. Had more time than my previous stop. Like the AR grip and trigger display. Great company imo. Green Wheeler on Amazon for $85. Get some.
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Nice shïtter!
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Nice shïtter! The best on I-80, without a doubt. Although cell reception in crap in there so I couldn't post during... Plus free soda and coffee!
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Nice shïtter! The best on I-80, without a doubt. Plus free soda and coffee! Looks like the handicapped stall. 😳
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Nice shïtter! The best on I-80, without a doubt. Although cell reception in crap in there so I couldn't post during... Plus free soda and coffee! That stall should have a shower head.
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Nice shïtter! The best on I-80, without a doubt. Although cell reception in crap in there so I couldn't post during... Plus free soda and coffee! That stall should have a shower head. Be like the comfort rooms in the Philippines. One tiled spot for the throan and a floor drain and garden hose and bucket for washing things...
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As I've written a number of times before, the highest and best use for a "boresighter" is to help in getting a scope reasonably aligned with the bore during mounting. Part of the "problem" is that ammo doesn't always shoot exactly where the bore points.
We've all seen how various rifles will put different loads into different places, even after one particular load is sighted-in, however that's defined. So there's no way for a collimator will insure every kind of ammo lands near the center of the reticle. But by trying the collimator on several sighted-in rifles, we can comes up with a reasonable average.
Given all that, I have had good luck with the Wheeler laser collimator (green beam), given that the point of light tends to be lower than the center of the reticle at, say, 15-20 feet, about as much space as available indoors. Outside it's pretty darn accurate at around 30 yards, partly because the magnet's circular area is over an inch wide, so you can slide it up and down on the muzzle to approximate the scope's height above the center of the bore. It's especially helpful on calibers where bore-spuds aren't small or large enough, whether on a .17 Hornet or 12-gauge slug gun.
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Thanks JB. Appreciate your input. I definitely liked the build quality on it compared to my Bushnell optical magnetic doodad. Oh, since you don't have a steady job, maybe you could sight these in for me?
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Ha!
Would be happy to loan you the Wheeler if you wanna try it.
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LOL
Got one on the way!
Cheers and happy hunting.
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