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You don't see many R models in Winchester calibers and in Davids book he mentioned that they are rare. Are they less common than the EG in the win. Calibers? Does anyone have the production numbers for these
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I don't think that 99Rs in 243, 308, or 358 are common anywhere. I have seen more 99Rs in 308 than in 243 and 358 combined, but probably fewer than 20 of any of them.
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I don't think that 99Rs in 243, 308, or 358 are common anywhere. I have seen more 99Rs in 308 than in 243 and 358 combined, but probably fewer than 20 of any of them. That's been my experience as well. I have two 99R's in 308 and have seen a few, never seen one in 243 that I remember unless Gary N. had one, and seen only one or two (online) in 358. Have two EG's in 308, Have seen one in 243 online, and have seen one or two (online) in 358, and own one of them.
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I've owned 4 Rs in 308, 3 in 358, and 1 in 243.
I sold the 243 for what I paid for it to a guy who told me that he wanted it for his collection. I think that he kept it in his collection for less than a month and sold it for a lot more than he paid for it. I felt that I'd been lied to, so that was the end of several years of buying and selling to each other.
I still have a 358 somewhere.
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I don't have a 358 R, would be proud to own one should you ever decide to sell. GW
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R in 250 seems equally as rare as 243, especially a pre-war 250R. There was a post-war 250 R last month on GB, I think it went at around $900, but it sat through several rotations, it may still be there... It looked very good, tempting. ...but R's are still clubs, which makes more sense in 358, not so much in 243 or 250. I would let go of my 243R before my 358, but I paid too much for it, so it's cheaper to keep it.
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I think I paid $167 or $187 for my 250R, many moons ago. It would have been a pretty nice rifle it some one had not drilled it for a side mount, being a 1950 model that was factory drilled!
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R in 250 seems equally as rare as 243, especially a pre-war 250R. There was a post-war 250 R last month on GB, I think it went at around $900, but it sat through several rotations, it may still be there... It looked very good, tempting. ...but R's are still clubs, which makes more sense in 358, not so much in 243 or 250. I would let go of my 243R before my 358, but I paid too much for it, so it's cheaper to keep it. 99Rs are long and heavy, but that isn't a negative when hunting in open areas where longer ranges are more common and a rifle that is a little heaver and therefore easier to hold steady is a positive attribute. It may be regional and/or situational thing. A 99F is more practical for the woods or mountain hunter, while the 99R is more practical for the plains hunter. 99EG don't seem to be practical for anything. When I wanted a 99 in 260 the style that I chose was a 99F.
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I have a post WWII R in 250. The barrel has been reblued. The rest of the rifle is in great shape. Now that I know how rare they are I wonder if it was originally some other calibers and bubba found a 250 barrel from an EG.
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99R's in 250 aren't all that uncommon, imho. They pop up much more frequently than R's in 308, 358 and 243.
After EG's, probably the easiest 250-3000 to get.
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wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]
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Just my opinion. I've had two shooter R's in 250 that I was able to get for reasonable amounts. My R's in 308/358 took far longer to come into.
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Pre War R's the hardest 30-30-303-250-3000-300 I know of 1 in22HP
Post War hardest 358-243-308-250-3000-300
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What he said.
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R in 250 seems equally as rare as 243, especially a pre-war 250R. There was a post-war 250 R last month on GB, I think it went at around $900, but it sat through several rotations, it may still be there... It looked very good, tempting. ...but R's are still clubs, which makes more sense in 358, not so much in 243 or 250. I would let go of my 243R before my 358, but I paid too much for it, so it's cheaper to keep it. 99Rs are long and heavy, but that isn't a negative when hunting in open areas where longer ranges are more common and a rifle that is a little heaver and therefore easier to hold steady is a positive attribute. It may be regional and/or situational thing. A 99F is more practical for the woods or mountain hunter, while the 99R is more practical for the plains hunter. 99EG don't seem to be practical for anything. When I wanted a 99 in 260 the style that I chose was a 99F. I rekon I hunted with my 250R for close to 20 years and never noticed it was heavy, but I mostly stand hunt with good rests built in. Then I decided to try for the Savage Slam, and carried my B in 303 around, was glad to go back to the R. Then I took out the H in 22HP. I had to keep looking down at my hand to make sure it was still there. If my 1919 250 wasn't so nice, I'd hunt it more.
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[quote=99hunter]You don't see many R models in Winchester calibers and in Davids book he mentioned that they are rare. Are they less common than the EG in the win. Calibers? Does anyone have the production numbers for these [/quote The Winchester rounds are only in the 900,000 range (about 68,000).
There is no know quantities so I'll do some guessing in big round numbers:
F's about 70% EG's about 20% R's about 10% 40% to 50% 308's
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The Winchester rounds are only in the 900,000 range (about 68,000).
There is no know quantities so I'll do some guessing in big round numbers:
F's about 70% EG's about 20% R's about 10% 40% to 50% 308's And some of those 900,000 receivers are chambered for 250-3000 and 300 Savage, just in case somebody was thinking they were all 243/308/358.
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Good information! Thanks for the replies!
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I have a 99R in 308 and a 99EG in 358. Killed nice bucks with both guns.
Only seen one R in 243, and that was at the Fest. Seen 3 EGs in 308. Never seen an R in 358 or an EG in 243.
Seen a ton of post war Rs in 250. And a good number of pre war Rs too.
I am actually thinking of bringing my 99R in 308 to the woods with me on opening day.
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I've been sorely tempted to try a EG in 358 for hunting but as of yet can't bring myself to take it out and try it. Listening to you go on about it Jeff it sure is tempting. I have other shooter 358's that it makes more sense to take out.
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