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358156 #14069703 08/22/19
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Is anyone aware of a commercial source for these bullets in a hollow point?

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I don't know, but can't begin to tell you how pleased I was last year, after years of searching to find one at a gunshow for $30 in nice shape. MB

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I personally haven't seen anyone commercially that offers that particular bullet design for sale, I have a NOE mold that is a clone of that bullet that I've been casting for several years now. I cast mine from 50 / 50 alloy with a bit of tin an get god expansion at +P velocity, at first I used to run mine through the lube size nowadays I just power coat them but I still use a gas check for 357 Mag. loads.

Recovered bullet fired for a S & W 642 38 Special Airweight 3.5 grs. Bullseye, I leave the GC off the 38 loads.
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That’s a mean looking bullet.

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358156 is this the Thompson design that Brian Pierce had an article about?


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Rimrock Bullets sells one very close to 358156 hollow point. Soft lead with gas check.


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Re: 358156 [Re: Texczech] #14096297 09/02/19
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Originally Posted by Texczech
358156 is this the Thompson design that Brian Pierce had an article about?


Don't know about the article but yes the #358156 is the Ray Thompson design.

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Originally Posted by res45
I personally haven't seen anyone commercially that offers that particular bullet design for sale, I have a NOE mold that is a clone of that bullet that I've been casting for several years now. I cast mine from 50 / 50 alloy with a bit of tin an get god expansion at +P velocity, at first I used to run mine through the lube size nowadays I just power coat them but I still use a gas check for 357 Mag. loads.

Recovered bullet fired for a S & W 642 38 Special Airweight 3.5 grs. Bullseye, I leave the GC off the 38 loads.
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What’s the part number on that NOE mold?.

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Originally Posted by Edwin264
Originally Posted by res45
I personally haven't seen anyone commercially that offers that particular bullet design for sale, I have a NOE mold that is a clone of that bullet that I've been casting for several years now. I cast mine from 50 / 50 alloy with a bit of tin an get god expansion at +P velocity, at first I used to run mine through the lube size nowadays I just power coat them but I still use a gas check for 357 Mag. loads.

Recovered bullet fired for a S & W 642 38 Special Airweight 3.5 grs. Bullseye, I leave the GC off the 38 loads.
[Linked Image]


What’s the part number on that NOE mold?.


Slim pickings on whats available, I've had mine for about five years.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_308&osCsid=g5o906bdfj1javj53r8sdi4o51

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Originally Posted by Texczech
358156 is this the Thompson design that Brian Pierce had an article about?


Yes. My favorite bullet for .38 Spl. and .357 Magnum. I'm still using the two cavity mold I bought back in August 1954. That date is not a typo. Given proper care they don't wear out.
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That's the mold I'd like to get. I haven't started casting yet. Paul, you have been casting exactly 10 years longer than I've been alive.😉


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Paul that's 20 years longer than me.


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Probably the ultimate fun bullet in the .358 Winchester!

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Originally Posted by res45
I cast mine from 50 / 50 alloy with a bit of tin.


What's the contents of your 50/50 alloy?


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Can’t comment on his 50/50 alloy but what I call 50/50 is 50%wheel weights and 50%range scrap or other soft lead. Some tin added. My use of this mixture is for target pistol loads. I powder coat them. No issues and good accuracy. Helps to stretch wheel weight supply.

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Originally Posted by ring3
Can’t comment on his 50/50 alloy but what I call 50/50 is 50%wheel weights and 50%range scrap or other soft lead. Some tin added. My use of this mixture is for target pistol loads. I powder coat them. No issues and good accuracy. Helps to stretch wheel weight supply.

Rob


Mine is 50/50 wheel weights & lead.

I have used your mixture without the tin for a lot of stuff.


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Re: 358156 [Re: Creeker] #14297917 11/21/19
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50% Wheel Weights an 50% roofers sheet lead, bullets are air cooled out of the mold and allowed to air cooled after powder coating. I actually use the same alloy in my HV 30-06 loads with the exception that I water quench the bullets after powder coating right from the toaster and allow a couple weeks for the bullets to age harden. I shot bullets cast from the 50/50 alloy powder coated and gas checked up to 2300 fps. in my old Rem. 770 with excellent accuracy.

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My Experience: An alloy that Glen Fryxell spoke of was the 50/50 using wheel weights and unalloyed lead. I had Hollowpointman make a hollow point mold from a single cavity 452374 mold. The 50/50 mix was the hardest that HP alloy should be according to Mr Ohlen. That was long ago and may have applied to 45 ACP only. . The 50/50 alloy also can be used for BP cartridges. Been there done that. The last hollow points I made were from an old Lyman factory mold for the 358156. I found that alloy was important having having undesirable explosive expansion with home cast 44 caliber HP bullets in my Super Blackhawk.

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Originally Posted by Roundball1
My Experience: An alloy that Glen Fryxell spoke of was the 50/50 using wheel weights and unalloyed lead. I had Hollowpointman make a hollow point mold from a single cavity 452374 mold. The 50/50 mix was the hardest that HP alloy should be according to Mr Ohlen. That was long ago and may have applied to 45 ACP only. . The 50/50 alloy also can be used for BP cartridges. Been there done that. The last hollow points I made were from an old Lyman factory mold for the 358156. I found that alloy was important having having undesirable explosive expansion with home cast 44 caliber HP bullets in my Super Blackhawk.


Choosing the right alloy for a hollow point is important, and depends a lot on the hollow point design and the velocity it'll be used at. I have converted more than a few molds to hollow points, and for most of them designed the hollow point for straight WW alloy (clip on, air cooled). For those designs, using 50/50 would be way too soft. For some others, maybe too hard. I would not claim there is any particular alloy or hardness that's best or maximum for hollow points unless we're talking about a specific bullet.

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It’s my favorite bullet in my model 27 Smith. The hollow point will exit through antelope shoulders, or at least the base will. My alloy is 3% antimony and 2% tin.
Mihec makes this mold in two and four cavity brass that cast beautifully. Mine is a plain base.

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