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"It's usually about 20% humidity here, so the poo dries up quicker than it can burn the lawn I think. Lotta times it's so dry it just crumbles if it gets stepped on.

Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."

I believe you are correct on the humidity /dog poop thing. It's pretty wet and humid up here. And it snows, which means if I miss a few winter turds, they produce dead spots in the lawn come spring.

To expand on my earlier post ( my wife was rushing me to go hiking) . I have had male Lab or mixes for over 40 years. Bare spots everywhere they pooped. So much for the "female urine" thing. 16 months ago I had a nice evenly green lawn, having been dog-less for over 2 years, and 6 of those years we (Tripper Lab and I) were here only once a month or so for a weekend..

In June 2018 I acquired Honey Half-lab, now 45 lbs, a spayed female rescue dog, who will be 3 sometime this month. I was doing poop-pickup about once a week or so at first, and was soon seeing dead spots started. I started daily poop patrols and the problem largely went away - especially if I got it within an hour or two (she poops 3 or 4 times a day- hence her Indian name, Poops-a-Lot. My wife calls her Honey Bucket)

And yes- she pees out there at least 6 times a day, and......not a dead spot at this time anywhere! Well except the ones my wife made, but that's another story.

The dead spots from 2018 are all grown in again, a very dark green, as well as others from this year where the poop sat for several hours before being bagged in humid conditions/rainy weather.

At one point late summer 2018, the dog had the runs for a couple days. Even tho I picked it up immediately, it still did a kill job, tho pretty mild. , obviously soaking the grass killing chemical into the ground on contact.

Chako is our nearly 7 month old male Dachsund. I have not noticed his turdlets making kill spots- probably a volume thing, tho it could also be at least partly sex related hormones, I suppose. And boy does he have them- humps everything! Typical Weasel-dog. smile

From my empirical observations, I consider that female dog urine killing grass theory to be entirely wrong.

I will stipulate that I spread my pee-off-the-deck spots around, having made a dead spot once by not doing so...... too much of a good thing! smile


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I have a small backyard that is grass and 1 labrador she is retired now, I'm looking to get a pup, asking for ideas on how to keep it easy to clean up I was thinking maybe gravel it. What ideas have you done to make this workable.
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“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."


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Originally Posted by ironbender
“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."
]“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."


"Bring your truck over. I got your free nitrogen right here!
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Yep - Mike is full-up with horse pucky. And he has dogs too.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."


Bring your truck over. I got your free nitrogen right here!


Two dogs, (perhaps three later this year/next spring) a rooster, and 6 hens and I'll not be needing to go to AK for nitrogen.

Someday maybe for a fishing/hunting trip................but not for a load of poo. grin

You should find a nice patch of fireweed to fertilize.

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Well, aren't you a real party-pooer? smile


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Part of me not noticing yellow spots in the lawn is my lack of concern for a "Scott's" lawn chemical green lawn.

Our "lawn", such as it is, was planted over mostly native high desert soil, which is more like clay and volcanic rock, after they put in the septic system.I just water it as best I can in the summer, without running our well dry. In the fall and spring it gets watered more naturally, I've already drained the hose in that yard. Not AK, but as you guys know, the angle of the sun is decreasing drastically this time of year. That and the cooler temps decreases the evaporation/transpiration rate, so I haven't watered for a few weeks now, since our last rainstorm.

As you can see in the pic, taken at the height of summer in July, the left side of the yard is native, the "lawn" starts where Katie is lying. Might have an inch of topsoil built up from the earthworm activity and what I leave from the mulching blade a few times a year. And it usually gets a dose or two of Alaska Fish Fertilizer (gotta help you folks out up there, what with the low oil prices and all the stink over the yearly free money grin ).

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Dying off some now from the nightly frost. With only about 90 frost free days a year, 12" of rain average, high desert low humidity, a well that gets low in drought years, and schitty desert soil you understand why I don't invest a lot of time and energy in a lawn, right? The dogs don't seem to mind, and they crap wherever they want back there so I don't mind either.

One day, maybe, I'll bring some soil over from the good part of the property, which is a flood zone and why they didn't put the house over there I think.

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PS, the "green manicured weed free" ideal is propagated upon the American public by the Lawn Care Chemical Company Barons. They're as bad as the Car Wash and Polish Weekly Company Barons and the Razor Blade and Electric Razor Shave Every Day Company Barons too. They really don't care what your lawn, car, or face looks like, as long as they sell you schiedt you don't really need, in bulk quantities hopefully for them and their shareholders. wink


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Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by ironbender
“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."
]“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."


"Bring your truck over. I got your free nitrogen right here!


Yep - Mike is full-up with horse pucky. And he has dogs too.
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Dog [bleep] doesn’t go in the manure pile. I’ve read it should not be mixed in w horse manure.
Doggie diamonds go in a reused feed bag and then to the transfer site.

My manure pile is pure! wink


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Good on you for having dog(s) for your kid to play with, grow up with.

I'd worry more about the boy's health and happiness, and the dog's too, than I would some spots on the lawn. Those can be addressed easily enough, but it's muuch better to have healthy and happy kids and dogs than a green yard.

I'm thinking you'll do OK. And I wish you the best as an only parent, can't be easy.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
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Originally Posted by ironbender
“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."
]“Dry enough I'll spread it around landscaping plants...................screw those Job's tree spikes! free nitrogen from the pooches."


"Bring your truck over. I got your free nitrogen right here!


Yep - Mike is full-up with horse pucky. And he has dogs too.

Dog [bleep] doesn’t go in the manure pile. I’ve read it should not be mixed in w horse manure.
Doggie diamonds go in a reused feed bag and then to the transfer site.

My manure pile is pure! wink
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Why not mixed in with the horse apples for compost? Will it be used on vegetables? That's one reason I know for not using it in the garden, there apparently are transferable pathogens, and if not "cooked" hot enough in the compost there is a danger of transmittal to a human. It's why I only use my doggie fertilizer spikes on landscaping plants and trees. A lot of mine gets collected in a Homer Bucket and brought out to place around my juniper trees to increase growth of my future emergency firewood supply. It never goes in the garden beds.

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Man this thing ha sure gone off track lol I live in town because I'm an only dad no other family to help out with my kiddo.

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Man this thing ha sure gone off track lol I live in town because I'm an only dad no other family to help out with my kiddo.



You can say that again!


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Man this thing ha sure gone off track lol I live in town because I'm an only dad no other family to help out with my kiddo.



You can say that again!


Hey, I see what you did there.

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