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This is a rifle with a 26-inch octagon barrel, made in 1898 before the Model 1894 became the Model 94. (That occurred over a few years after WWI; during that transition period some were still stamped 1894.) It's been used but not abused, with no cracks in the stock, or any modifications. Aside from use-wear, the one flaw is some staining on the left side of the forend, which is shown in the photo of the rear sight. The sights were options from the factory at that time, a 3-leaf open rear and a flip-over Sheard front combining a typical bead with a globe containing a post with a small round tip. The bore is dark, typical of that era when mercuric primers were standard, but the rifling is strong. It groups three shots of favored handloads into two inches at 100 yards, Included will be a list of loads, plus about 90 once-fired Winchester-brand cases (purchased new when I got the rifle 15 years ago), and a set of RCBS dies, full-length sizer and seater. Am asking $1295, which includes shipping. Will take personal check, money order, cash or PayPal, whatever's easiest for the buyer.
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Very cool, hadn't seen a front sight like that before, GLWYS
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Anyone know the name of that front sight? I have one on an 1893 Marlin. Great sight. GLWYS
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They're known as Beeches Combination Sight, more commonly seen on Winchester Hi-wall and Low-wall rifles. Though back in the day they were offered as options in the old Winchester catalogs.
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Gunswizard,
Well, in a general way.
The guy who actually invented the original sight was named Beach, though for some reason many people have writen about the "Beech" sight, especially recently.
After the patent expired around 1890, Lyman, Marble and Sheard made similar sights. From my research, the likely origin of the sight on on my rifle is Sheard.
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That’s not grandma’s rifle is it John??!
Also I think that front sight has this feature that is super cool (too me anyhow)...the small bead I believe is ivory and if it would happen to break a “new” bead can be pushed through from the opposite side of the sight as it had a hole drilled and then “plugged” with the ivory - those designers thought of everything!
Nice gun!! PennDog
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Nope, not grandma's rifle--which is a Remington 722 .257 Roberts--which I would pass along to family rather than sell.
She was given the .257 by her second husband. My grandfather died during the Depression, and she finally remarried in the early 1950's, to a guy who owned the hardware store in Denton, Montana. He could get firearms wholesale, and gave her the new .257--probably in 1953, the year the date-code indicates it was made.
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That’s good - was thinking the .25-35 was your grandmother’s for some reason......new she had a cool rifle though!
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The .257 is pretty cool--and still shoots very well....
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Some interest in trades for the rifle, but right now am more interested in selling--though might make an exception for something interesting.
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Nice rifle. Nearly the twin to the rifle I hunted my first few years with... At 5 ft and 100 lbs, the bottom of the crescent butt plate would drag a trace in the snow if I was not careful.
“I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love, and it’s difficult to analyze love when you’re in it.” John Steinbeck
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Ha!
In 7th grade I had a friend who was even skinnier than I was. He used one of the family rifles for his first deer hunts, a .25-35 Model 94 carbine with a crescent buttplate. He told his friends the .25-35 kicked really HARD--which not doubt was true to a small kid who was basically skin and bones.
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They're known as Beeches Combination Sight, more commonly seen on Winchester Hi-wall and Low-wall rifles. Though back in the day they were offered as options in the old Winchester catalogs. Savage offered those sight as well, have had a few
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As noted above, there were several variations after the original Beach (not Beech) patent expired in 1890.
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Trade you straight across for a really neat 22 K Hornet. 😎
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Up top, was I had the FUNDS!
Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
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