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Trump tells the absolute truth about Afghanistan. Trump says exactly what millions of Americans have said about Afghanistan. The Deep State and the MSM is appalled. Voters will re-elect him because he speaks the truth.


You can also see why career Pentagon politico military people as well as Deep Staters don't like him. In this case, Trump really didn't want to here about what the "experts thought we needed to do for the benefit of our position in Afghanistan. that offends some of them. Some will claim Trump is "stupid" or and idiot. Nothing cound be further from the truth. Read the parts highlighted in red.
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'Who gives a s--- about Afghanistan?': Trump stunned officials with his comments during a military briefing, former aide says
Business Insider David Choi,Business Insider 3 hours ago

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President Donald Trump bemoaned a US-led coalition mission to provide aid to Afghanistan and derailed a meeting with top military officials last year, according to an upcoming book by an aide to former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.
"Seriously, who gives a s--- about Afghanistan?" Trump said, according to Guy Snodgrass, a retired US Navy commander and Mattis' former speechwriter. "So far we're in for $7 trillion, fellas ... $7 trillion including Iraq. Worst decision ever and we're stuck with it."
Snodgrass, who was assisting Mattis with PowerPoint slides for the president, said he prepared his presentation by taking into account Trump's tendency to dislike slides with "too much information."
Instead of using complicated military information in the briefing, Snodgrass opted for the "more straightforward approach: just pictures," he said.

President Donald Trump bemoaned a US-led coalition mission to provide aid to Afghanistan and derailed a meeting with top military officials last year, according to an upcoming book by an aide to former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.


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We never should have stayed in Afghanistan.
We should have killed all the Taliban we could and put some of the warlords in charge and said you figure it out.
If we have to come back and kill more of you we will.
Don't make us come back or you will regret it.


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Trump is right, Who gives a flying fugg!!


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Geopolitics. Apparently the great unwashed deplorables have no ability to understand it.

Basically, it boils down to “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours and we’ll both get rich off the tax money we steal from the rubes”.

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trump has always told the truth to a far degree greater than the other repub candidates and All of the demos combined.

what we're into is what the american public have said in their homes and at their work stations for a long time now.

we know the structure is not working as it should. he is offering us change. the whole world is changing.

maybe it's because of the 4 inch wobble at the poles, i don't know. but change is in the air for sure.


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I agree whole totally. The only people that care about that hell hole are the contract companies making big money as long as we try to make a silk purse out of that sow's ear. I don't even think the majority of Afghans even care about having a country...they care more about their tribal areas than having a country.

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George Bush made the world a safe place for Donald Trump, Ron Paul, and their siblings; trump may withdraw now. grin

I hope he knows those countries better than he knows his own

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Afghanistan is a prime example of what happens when you do not fight to win!!

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Originally Posted by Paul_M
We never should have stayed in Afghanistan.
We should have killed all the Taliban we could and put some of the warlords in charge and said you figure it out.
If we have to come back and kill more of you we will.
Don't make us come back or you will regret it.

When I am king will you be my foreign policy adviser?? I would tweek it a bit (which is why you are adviser not king) IF we come back we kill you all...

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While i have no direct quotr, im sure control of the intl drug trade via the poppies over there is ANOTHER reason we are still there subjecting our fighting men to harm


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Originally Posted by hatari
Trump tells the absolute truth about Afghanistan. Trump says exactly what millions of Americans have said about Afghanistan. The Deep State and the MSM is appalled. Voters will re-elect him because he speaks the truth.


You can also see why career Pentagon politico military people as well as Deep Staters don't like him. In this case, Trump really didn't want to here about what the "experts thought we needed to do for the benefit of our position in Afghanistan. that offends some of them. Some will claim Trump is "stupid" or and idiot. Nothing cound be further from the truth. Read the parts highlighted in red.
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'Who gives a s--- about Afghanistan?': Trump stunned officials with his comments during a military briefing, former aide says
Business Insider David Choi,Business Insider 3 hours ago

Donald Trump
Kevin Lamarque/Reuters

President Donald Trump bemoaned a US-led coalition mission to provide aid to Afghanistan and derailed a meeting with top military officials last year, according to an upcoming book by an aide to former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.
"Seriously, who gives a s--- about Afghanistan?" Trump said, according to Guy Snodgrass, a retired US Navy commander and Mattis' former speechwriter. "So far we're in for $7 trillion, fellas ... $7 trillion including Iraq. Worst decision ever and we're stuck with it."
Snodgrass, who was assisting Mattis with PowerPoint slides for the president, said he prepared his presentation by taking into account Trump's tendency to dislike slides with "too much information."
Instead of using complicated military information in the briefing, Snodgrass opted for the "more straightforward approach: just pictures," he said.

President Donald Trump bemoaned a US-led coalition mission to provide aid to Afghanistan and derailed a meeting with top military officials last year, according to an upcoming book by an aide to former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.


I've done tons of presentations in my first career and now it is my second career in hunter education in Alberta. NOBODY likes slides with too much writing or techno-jargon. NOBODY. For some speech writer to claim he tailored the PPP for Trump with mostly pictures(insinuating that he is dumb), that is what people want. If they have too read too much, they would rather read a book, than look at a slide full of writing and have someone yap at them.

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There is nothing in Afghanistan worth one American life. Never has been, never will.

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Once we knew they were allowing the 911 peo9ple to stay there we should have turned the place to glass then told the world that the next chithole that wants to kill Americans will get the same

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Originally Posted by Paul_M
We never should have stayed in Afghanistan.
We should have killed all the Taliban we could and put some of the warlords in charge and said you figure it out.
If we have to come back and kill more of you we will.
Don't make us come back or you will regret it.


Absolutely right and my thoughts all along.
There isn't one damn Afghani that's worth an American life!
Forget the nation building BS and dole out the punishment as required.


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Originally Posted by slowmover12
There is nothing in Afghanistan worth one American life. Never has been, never will.



I thought we invaded because of this? Then they ran into Pakistan, or were caught, sent to gitmo, and released by Obama?



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Originally Posted by slowmover12
There is nothing in Afghanistan worth one American life. Never has been, never will.

Actually Afghanistan is supposed to be full of rare earth elements, which I suspect is why they want to stay, hoping to control the access to them.
It is not worth our boys dying over there tho because they are still living like it is the 5th century
It will be a long time before it is stable enough to make it worth investing in any type of mining.


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Actually Afghanistan is supposed to be full of rare earth elements, which I suspect is why they want to stay, hoping to control the access to them.




Are they already dug, or do folks have to dig em up?


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Kicking ass in Afghanistan was the right thing to do. Staying and trying to turn them into good little Republicans was stupid; they don't want it (or not enough of them want it to make it work) and they're culturally not suited for it. Bomb, rinse, repeat as necessary, should be the policy for places like that.

I fell for the Iraq scam, along with Congress and a bunch of others. There just wasn't any real justification for that, unless you think it was worth all those lives and limbs, and American treasure to punish Saddam Hussein for trying to have Bush 1 killed, which I don't. The Israelis have the right idea about this stuff. Some of the people of Iraq may appreciate the new order, now that the power stays on most of the time, but thousands, likely tens or hundreds of thousands of their countrymen and kin died to establish that, which they're unlikely to forget or forgive. All praise and honor to our military for the job they did there, and a pox on the politicians and diplomats who failed to apply the lessons learned in previous wars and interfered with the process, resulting in unnecessary casualties. Throwing pallets of American dollars at people will never make them your friend or trustworthy allies, especially if you've just blown their country to schitt and killed their favorite uncle.

Trump is right to pull our troops out of Syria too. It may have been possible to do it in a way that would have been less dangerous for the Kurds, but it's done. The Yurrupeans, especially the Germans (go figure) are showing some interest in being the traffic cops in Syria, perhaps to train for the coming civil war to suppress dissenting member nations of the EU who might decide Brexit looks like a pretty good idea. Let them. We have all the oil we need; they should be the ones to protect their supply.

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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by slowmover12
There is nothing in Afghanistan worth one American life. Never has been, never will.



I thought we invaded because of this? Then they ran into Pakistan, or were caught, sent to gitmo, and released by Obama?



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Perhaps we should've suspected, but were so shocked we looked away in horror and sadness.

But we shouldve invaded Washington Dc shortly here after. If the pols will attempt a coup of the Federal election process with the help of foreign intelligence services, then march and sow destruction throughout the ME to shake up the status quo, whats a few American lives as long as it galvanizes a Nation TENTATIVELY?


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Now your talking wink


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