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yes, he probably should, if he's at all serious about building a wall.

problem is, there's so many sanctuary cities, it'd take the marines.

and the interstate hi-ways would become barricaded.

and flow of goods would shut down.

the economy would then fail.

then he wouldn't get re-elected.

so, there it is in writing.

Wars are fought for real estate
Wars are fought for religion

Always have been-- always will be--

yep.

wars to accost groups outside the borderlines.

internal conflicts are called civil wars for lack of a term.

utimately, wars are fought to control access to the water holes.

Great Britain declared war on Germany for invading Poland. Germany invaded Poland to reclaim territory that had been part of Germany prior to WW1 and still occupied by ethnic Germans.

It was Churchill's decision that involved the U.S.A. in the war in Europe during WW2.

Urthlings, being of a tribal ancestry thinks that folks who are the enemy are not their friend, so they/we enact rules & regulations to control those foreigners.

and sometimes the antagonists do likewise.

i just hate it when young men get kilt because of some strange king somewheres.

what would happen if we arbitrarily set up 300 countries in the world? how about 100?

surely there's a better answer, one or the other? i mean, we have choices, and can't all vote?

Japan's assets had been frozen and sanctions by the western powers were strangling their economy. It was basically an economic blockade enforced by the U.S. They were in a desperate position. I'm not saying they weren't cruel people but their only options seemed to be extreme national poverty or to do what they did in hopes of wearing the U.S. down in a very bloody war. As it turned out they were able to get a conditional surrender.

You're absolutely right about GB declaring war on Germany over the occupation of Poland, but there were other alliances that assisted that declaration. It wasn't just the Polish issue.

While it was most certainly Churchill's desire for America to enter he war (which the US strongly resisted), it wasn't until we started being targeted that the US decided, not Churchill, for us to enter the war. Churchill's angst about the US refusing to enter the war has been well documented.

Ed

But why did the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor in the first place?

The war wasn't about Pearl Harbor.

It just happens that the contours of economics and religion are correlated. Few "religious wars" are really religious.

The conflict between the Irish Catholics and the British Protestants fell along religious lines, but also along the lines of nationality and economic lines.

No.

We were always going to be involved in it, one way or another.

Gus,

We've already ran that experiment.

Look what happened when the Allied powers randomly set up countries in the Middle East at the end of WWI.

It's better to let peoples determine their own natural border than try to set them up artificially.

It is obvious that you know your stuff about a lot of things. What in a nutshell caused it. I would think it was a contest over who was going to exploit Asia. And Japan had ambitions of an Asian empire which the U.S. interest in the same real estate was thwarting.

Hastings,

You are essentially correct. As Japan entered the industrial age, they lacked several components necessary for effective industrial growth, namely good supplies of iron, coal, oil, and rubber, and some elbow room.

Invading Manchuria was about the iron, coal and elbow room. Indonesian was about oil and rubber. Of course while they were at it, they decided to grab everything else of interest around them from Korea to the Philippines.

Japan was attempting to build a traditional empire which monopoly control over these resources through force, and in the process deny access to other nations that previously might access them through trade.

By this time the U.S. had transistorized to a trade based empire. We didn't need to control the peoples of the world, were were happy to trade with them for the betterment of both sides. The Japanese expansion in the Pacific threaten our trading interests, and consequently, earned them an intimate relationship with the power of the industrial west courtesy of Curtis Lemay.

Maybe.

But Harry Truman's idea was to wait and see who took the lead between Russian and Germany and take the side that was winning.

Old Communist FDR sided with Stalin and the Bolsheviks and the world has been paying the price ever since.

Russia paid it,..China paid it,..Korea paid it,...Cuba paid it,...and now America is paying the Bolshevik tax.

Patton had it right. We fought the wrong enemy in Europe in WW2.

Now we get to be ruled by Communists too!

It's soon to get right sporty.

The lines were already drawn when Wilson screwed the Germans at Versailles. As for letting the Germans and Russians fight it out before making a decision on which way to jump, Germany and Russia had a non-aggression pack and shares the spoils of Poland. Even after the Germans attacked Russian, what were we going to do, join Germany against England France and Russia? Really?

England, France and Russia are a waste.

A German controlled Europe would have been a very productive entity,....and Muslims wouldn't be raping their way across Europe today if Germany was in charge.

In a nutshell,....the world put Germany down because of its potential.

The world supported Russia because it thought that it could handle the Bolsheviks. Now the Bolsheviks have escaped the laboratory and inhabit America.

The world made a bad choice.

After the Germans were done murdering the Jew and Poles, who would of been next?

War is murder.

But for the record,..after the initial clash,..Germans weren't particularly interested in murdering Poles.

I had quite a few in laws who lived under German occupation. They all lived long lives afterwards.

Russians were known for murdering Poles,...and anybody else that they deemed to be a threat,...including other Russians.

Churchill and FDR loved Stalin, anyway.

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