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Don't know, read it somewhere. Putting allegiance to the moral teachings of a fraternal organization ahead of the moral teachings of your church would be a heresy, no? Supposedly that's part of the secret ceremonies. Never really researched it as I have no interest in joining any fraternal organization.


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Beats the hell outta me.


I was never a very good Catholic. I can still say the Rosary though. Hail Mary full of grace......

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Beats the hell outta me.....


I think that was the idea behind the Inquisition.


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Jim, You're ahead of me in that, the repetition drives me to distraction. I know your supposed to contemplate the mysteries but can't do it. Mind wanders to things like Jesus as an infant and how weird it must of been for Mary to potty train God. laugh

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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Jim, You're ahead of me in that, the repetition drives me to distraction. I know your supposed to contemplate the mysteries but can't do it. Mind wanders to things like Jesus as an infant and how weird it must of been for Mary to potty train God. laugh

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You could always tell who was in deeper trouble by the red line on their forehead.


The line came from resting your head on the back of the pew in front of you as you knelt.

The darker the line.....the more times you had been there reciting the Rosary.

100 was the longest stretch I ever got.


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Originally Posted by 5sdad
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Beats the hell outta me.....


I think that was the idea behind the Inquisition.


No one ever expected it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Beats the hell outta me.....


I think that was the idea behind the Inquisition.


No one ever expected it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I think cut and paste is the real satan.


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Yeah. The way I heard it is short and sweet. Masons are required to pledge their allegiance to their lodge above all else, including Rome. But more I don't know or care, I'm not a joiner.


Who said that?


And who really cares about Romeoam? I mean really!

that's when you take your phone out of the service provider coverage area


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Originally Posted by sse
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I think cut and paste is the real satan.


mike r

Yeah. The way I heard it is short and sweet. Masons are required to pledge their allegiance to their lodge above all else, including Rome. But more I don't know or care, I'm not a joiner.


Who said that?


And who really cares about Romeoam? I mean really!

that's when you take your phone out of the service provider coverage area


That would also be Rome Oregon.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by sbrmike
I usually avoid these discussions for fear of inadvertently divulging secrets I took an oath to keep. Number one the biggest Secret in Freemasonry is there is no secret! It is a fraternity of good men. Their mission is to take a good man and make him better. Freemasonry in all it's forms is simply the Brotherhood of Man under the Fatherhood of God. We worship the God off our choice in the manner of our choice. It is not a cult or bunch of devil worshippers; that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Actually, there are only a couple of "secrets" that you not allowed to divulge to a non-Mason.

Any secret makes it a demonic organization.

That's a very simple-minded statement.

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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Jim, You're ahead of me in that, the repetition drives me to distraction. I know your supposed to contemplate the mysteries but can't do it. Mind wanders to things like Jesus as an infant and how weird it must of been for Mary to potty train God. laugh

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After 5 years in a catholic school I could say the rosary, imagine what Mary Harkness looked like naked and imagine hunting penguins at the same time. I learned multi-tasking from Holy Cross nuns.


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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Jim, You're ahead of me in that, the repetition drives me to distraction. I know your supposed to contemplate the mysteries but can't do it. Mind wanders to things like Jesus as an infant and how weird it must of been for Mary to potty train God. laugh

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You could always tell who was in deeper trouble by the red line on their forehead.


The line came from resting your head on the back of the pew in front of you as you knelt.

The darker the line.....the more times you had been there reciting the Rosary.

100 was the longest stretch I ever got.

And that's the way our soldiers deployed to Afghanistan could determine who the hard-core Muslims were and who were more likely to be hiding an AK47 under their man-jams. Those that would try to push Sharia law frequently had a dark spot on their forehead from praying to Allah six times a day. If you saw a military-aged male with a dark spot on his forehead, you'd best keep your eye on his ass. True story.

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Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Jim, You're ahead of me in that, the repetition drives me to distraction. I know your supposed to contemplate the mysteries but can't do it. Mind wanders to things like Jesus as an infant and how weird it must of been for Mary to potty train God. laugh

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You could always tell who was in deeper trouble by the red line on their forehead.


The line came from resting your head on the back of the pew in front of you as you knelt.

The darker the line.....the more times you had been there reciting the Rosary.

100 was the longest stretch I ever got.

And that's the way our soldiers deployed to Afghanistan could determine who the hard-core Muslims were and who were more likely to be hiding an AK47 under their man-jams. Those that would try to push Sharia law frequently had a dark spot on their forehead from praying to Allah six times a day. If you saw a military-aged male with a dark spot on his forehead, you'd best keep your eye on his ass. True story.



combat hunter, very cool.


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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
So, it really is Satanic?

I wouldn’t have said so if it weren’t true.


The Truth is not in you about many, many things.



Just because you disagree does not make you right.


By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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