24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,214
Likes: 8
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,214
Likes: 8
It's all smoke and mirrors for public consumption. The Dems want their cake and eat it, too. The ones that have half a brain left don't want to officially vote and have it on their record.

GB1

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 13,110
Likes: 12
RAS Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 13,110
Likes: 12
Despite all the House GOP bashing, they held the line completely.

That is huge. The visuals of a purely partisan impeachment is huge for 2020. Over 50 House Democrats voted to impeach Clinton in his impeachment.

This is nothing more than a fund raising effort for Ds now.

Personally, I believe this really helps Trump and the GOP for 2020. Pelosi looks so petty and small now.

Meanwhile, the economy continues to boom.


"...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,675
Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,675
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by RAS
Despite all the House GOP bashing, they held the line completely.

That is huge. The visuals of a purely partisan impeachment is huge for 2020. Over 50 House Democrats voted to impeach Clinton in his impeachment.

This is nothing more than a fund raising effort for Ds now.

Personally, I believe this really helps Trump and the GOP for 2020. Pelosi looks so petty and small now.

Meanwhile, the economy continues to boom.




And they have absolutely zero charges that hold a drop of water. They can't cite a single reg or law that has been broken, not one.

MM

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 26,719
Likes: 13
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 26,719
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by RAS
Despite all the House GOP bashing, they held the line completely.

That is huge. The visuals of a purely partisan impeachment is huge for 2020. Over 50 House Democrats voted to impeach Clinton in his impeachment.

This is nothing more than a fund raising effort for Ds now.

Personally, I believe this really helps Trump and the GOP for 2020. Pelosi looks so petty and small now.

Meanwhile, the economy continues to boom.




And they have absolutely zero charges that hold a drop of water. They can't cite a single reg or law that has been broken, not one.

MM


Oh come now, the evidence is right before your eyes, just ask Schiff, he'll tell you.


FJB & FJT
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 79,321
Likes: 2
B
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
B
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 79,321
Likes: 2
When you get right down to it,...Putin would be a much better American President than that line up of Negro and Communist homosexual misfits that are running for the Democratic nomination.

,....and that's a fact.

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,639
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,639
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ingwe
Dog and pony show that will amount to nothing...except wasting taxpayer dollars ( which is bad..) and getting Trump re-elected.( which is good..)

I guess they think all this looks good inside the Beltway.

It stinks out here in fly over country, the same crowd who elected Trump the first time. We'll do it again, even bigger this time.

As more secret stuff is revealed, the more this corruption is exposed.

DF

Agreed.....but I must say that I think the corruption is far far deeper than I could have imagined.

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,710
Likes: 6
E
efw Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
E
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 29,710
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by efw


You’re running on the false assumption that they mean to actually impeach & remove. I don’t think that’s the case; they want this lie to be repeated over and over and over and over throughout the election process so it becomes true in the minds of the electorate to such an extent that even one of their horrible candidates can beat The Donald.


That seems totally preposterous to me. How did you arrive at the assumption?


A) because Rs hold the Senate so removal won’t happen

B) because they’ve already stepped well outside the processed outlined in the Constitution

C) they’ve started a dog & pony show completely dislodged from reality with a complicit media reporting (strategic) “leaks”

D) ITS THE DEMOCRATS MAN PREPOSTEROUS IS THEIR MO!!!!!

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 17,147
Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 17,147
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by djs
There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue.


The economy is not a library book. There is no overdue, just conditions that change and drive the behaviors of governments, consumers and customers that results in reactive change.

Past statistics have nothing to do with what happens going forward.


If something on the internet makes you angry the odds are you're being manipulated
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

So how does this timing work? The way I understand it, the house would have to impeach and the senate hold the hearing all BEFORE election time, so about a year. All the while some of the sitting senators are on the campaign trail. I think if it spans an election that's a reset?

This can't possibly work out if that timing is true. It simply won't be time in the calendar to do it all.


You’re running on the false assumption that they mean to actually impeach & remove. I don’t think that’s the case; they want this lie to be repeated over and over and over and over throughout the election process so it becomes true in the minds of the electorate to such an extent that even one of their horrible candidates can beat The Donald.


That seems totally preposterous to me. How did you arrive at the assumption?
You actually have not read this here or elsewhere? This is probably the most popular theory of the whole "impeachment" mess only rivaled by actual impeachment. In the first place, the President will probably never be convicted by the Senate, negating the whole effort, so why continue or why did they start in the first place? The reason for this is no laws have been broken. They're not even accusing him of breaking laws, they're just accusing him of this or that and figuring the American public is so brainwashed by the news media that they'll never go for it. I don't trust the Senate for a second, so you have to take this seriously, but the Dems certainly appear to just be working this angle against Trump for the 2020 election and also to deep six other Republicans.

Certainly if they think they can actually impeach and remove Trump via illegal coup they will do so, but that doesn't seem probable. That's more like for after he wins the next election. All of this also provides cover for some of the biggest criminals and traitors in our country and removes the spotlight that Trump has shown on their crimes. Obviously if Trump ever has them arrested, they will scream that it is because they were about to remove him from office.

The simple unlikelihood of them being able to carry out a full coup on Trump negates most of this as being the primary purpose of the impeachment process-it's likely for propaganda with a secondary goal of actually doing it if it becomes possible.

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,375
Likes: 2
hatari Offline OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,375
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
................ In the first place, the President will probably never be convicted by the Senate, negating the whole effort, so why continue or why did they start in the first place? The reason for this is no laws have been broken. They're not even accusing him of breaking laws, they're just accusing him of this or that and figuring the American public is so brainwashed by the news media that they'll never go for it. I don't trust the Senate for a second, so you have to take this seriously, but the Dems certainly appear to just be working this angle against Trump for the 2020 election and also to deep six other Republicans.

Certainly if they think they can actually impeach and remove Trump via illegal coup they will do so, but that doesn't seem probable. That's more like for after he wins the next election. All of this also provides cover for some of the biggest criminals and traitors in our country and removes the spotlight that Trump has shown on their crimes. Obviously if Trump ever has them arrested, they will scream that it is because they were about to remove him from office.

The simple unlikelihood of them being able to carry out a full coup on Trump negates most of this as being the primary purpose of the impeachment process-it's likely for propaganda with a secondary goal of actually doing it if it becomes possible.



Pretty good summation.

It appears that you hint that a byproduct of the Dem attack is to give them a weapon to defend themselves against indictment that a number of them appear to deserve. I can see that.


"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
IC B3

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,046
Likes: 5
B
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,046
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
When it crashes the economy Trump will get the blame


Generally, a recession (economic downturn) is commonly identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. GDP has slowed in the past two quarters as discussed in this BBC article ( https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50234626 ).


There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue.

A recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of NEGATIVE economic growth, not just a reduction. Eventually there will be another recession but at this point no one knows when that might happen.

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

So how does this timing work? The way I understand it, the house would have to impeach and the senate hold the hearing all BEFORE election time, so about a year. All the while some of the sitting senators are on the campaign trail. I think if it spans an election that's a reset?

This can't possibly work out if that timing is true. It simply won't be time in the calendar to do it all.


You’re running on the false assumption that they mean to actually impeach & remove. I don’t think that’s the case; they want this lie to be repeated over and over and over and over throughout the election process so it becomes true in the minds of the electorate to such an extent that even one of their horrible candidates can beat The Donald.


That seems totally preposterous to me. How did you arrive at the assumption?
You actually have not read this here or elsewhere? This is probably the most popular theory of the whole "impeachment" mess only rivaled by actual impeachment. In the first place, the President will probably never be convicted by the Senate, negating the whole effort, so why continue or why did they start in the first place? The reason for this is no laws have been broken. They're not even accusing him of breaking laws, they're just accusing him of this or that and figuring the American public is so brainwashed by the news media that they'll never go for it. I don't trust the Senate for a second, so you have to take this seriously, but the Dems certainly appear to just be working this angle against Trump for the 2020 election and also to deep six other Republicans.

Certainly if they think they can actually impeach and remove Trump via illegal coup they will do so, but that doesn't seem probable. That's more like for after he wins the next election. All of this also provides cover for some of the biggest criminals and traitors in our country and removes the spotlight that Trump has shown on their crimes. Obviously if Trump ever has them arrested, they will scream that it is because they were about to remove him from office.

The simple unlikelihood of them being able to carry out a full coup on Trump negates most of this as being the primary purpose of the impeachment process-it's likely for propaganda with a secondary goal of actually doing it if it becomes possible.

What I have heard is that Romney has been recruiting R's to vote to convict and has done a pretty good job of it. It would appear he has 20 votes which would be all that is needed.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 29,383
O
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 29,383
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by djs
There will be a recession (cycles typical run every 7-8 years; we are now in the 11th year - 2009-2019), we are overdue.


The economy is not a library book. There is no overdue, just conditions that change and drive the behaviors of governments, consumers and customers that results in reactive change.

Past statistics have nothing to do with what happens going forward.


You did not expect a Lefty to know anything about economics?

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,249
Likes: 14
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,249
Likes: 14
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by RAS
Despite all the House GOP bashing, they held the line completely.

That is huge. The visuals of a purely partisan impeachment is huge for 2020. Over 50 House Democrats voted to impeach Clinton in his impeachment.

This is nothing more than a fund raising effort for Ds now.

Personally, I believe this really helps Trump and the GOP for 2020. Pelosi looks so petty and small now.

Meanwhile, the economy continues to boom.




And they have absolutely zero charges that hold a drop of water. They can't cite a single reg or law that has been broken, not one.

MM


Oh come now, the evidence is right before your eyes, just ask Schiff, he'll tell you.

How ya know when ole shifty Schiff is lying...?

When his lips are moving... shocked

He's a serial liar.

Did you know Schiff's sister was married to George Soros' son. They've since divorced.

It's a pretty tight pack of canines there in the Beltway.

DF

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,926
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,926
But they are sure there is fire somewhere.

They are pandering to those folks dumb enough to believe anything.

Think bigger cities and such.

From where i set i would not trust any of them to take out the trash.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,675
Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,675
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by RickyD

What I have heard is that Romney has been recruiting R's to vote to convict and has done a pretty good job of it. It would appear he has 20 votes which would be all that is needed.


If that were to be true, the results would be absolutely disasterous for this country & essentially the end of it as we've known it, as from then on, the slightest disagreement of a president with the opposition party holding congress would result in routine impeachment or at the least, holding the president hostage as Trump is being held hostage now on made up & imagined charges.

Trump is not in violation of any laws as of now that we know of.

If Trump were to be successfully impeached, I tend to think the whole country would go up in flames.

MM

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,364
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,364
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
[quote=RickyD]
If Trump were to be successfully impeached, I tend to think the whole country would go up in flames.

Are you willing to die for your freedom from the swamp? I mean, flat-out go to war against the leftists & socialists? Like our forefathers?
I am. I've been thinking recently that I've lived a good life so far...the end is probably 20-30 yrs for me, at most. Yes, I'll take up arms against the swamp if it comes to it.
But, how do we organize an effective campaign?

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 23,319
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 23,319
Originally Posted by rte
Every time there is good economic news during a Republican administration the state run fake media run stories of pending economic disaster.

When the Demonrats are in power, in spite of slow economic conditions,the state run fake news blows smoke up the ass of the public with lies about how good it is.

If you're stupid enough to believe the fake news,then you're dumber than a box of rocks.



The astute investor will take advantage of the fake news industry and buy when the markets act adversely to their "sky is falling" propaganda.


"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by RickyD

What I have heard is that Romney has been recruiting R's to vote to convict and has done a pretty good job of it. It would appear he has 20 votes which would be all that is needed.


If that were to be true, the results would be absolutely disasterous for this country & essentially the end of it as we've known it, as from then on, the slightest disagreement of a president with the opposition party holding congress would result in routine impeachment or at the least, holding the president hostage as Trump is being held hostage now on made up & imagined charges.

Trump is not in violation of any laws as of now that we know of.

If Trump were to be successfully impeached, I tend to think the whole country would go up in flames.

MM

That's my concern, as well.

I believe it is obvious that the media and demoncraps want, as Obama said his goal was, to fundamentally change this country.

The things many have been saying show a very cavalier attitude that includes mass murder of conservatives, destruction of Christianity, and imposition of a socialist regime. This is what they want. And they are not backing down.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 46,965
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
[quote=RickyD]
If Trump were to be successfully impeached, I tend to think the whole country would go up in flames.

Are you willing to die for your freedom from the swamp? I mean, flat-out go to war against the leftists & socialists? Like our forefathers?
I am. I've been thinking recently that I've lived a good life so far...the end is probably 20-30 yrs for me, at most. Yes, I'll take up arms against the swamp if it comes to it.
But, how do we organize an effective campaign?

Organizing appears to be the deterrent. I don't presume to be a leader of a million man army or march, but would rally around someone who is. And I am willing to die for this country, too.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24



492 members (1lessdog, 12344mag, 1234, 10gaugeman, 222Sako, 160user, 52 invisible), 18,357 guests, and 1,242 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,950
Posts18,539,508
Members74,051
Most Online20,796
Yesterday at 04:44 PM


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.224s Queries: 54 (0.046s) Memory: 0.9220 MB (Peak: 1.0337 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-26 22:02:20 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS