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Originally Posted by Etoh
It should be kept in mind at what range the particular 22lr ammo you do use goes subsonic. So the if the most expensive, best stuff you use goes sub at the longer range you plan to shoot, it will all be for naught.
JBM Ballistic program is free and they have most 22lr in their pull down choices. give it a try.


Good post thanks.

I picked up a Martini MK-II International last summer and put a 25X Weaver on it with the Burris insert rings. Looking forward to doing some long-rang shooting with it for fun in the off season.

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Long Range rimfire is predicated upon mechanics and deepest erector wins by default. Hint.

The MQ Reticle is only 10 Mils deep,whether Fixed [bleep],3-9x,3-15x or 5-20x. NOTHING can hang with a 6x and 10x Fixed Fhuqker there,due their unequalled erector travel. Hint.

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Everything below a 50yd zero on the erector...is 100% fhuqking USELESS. Hint.

75 MoMo 1913's are THE place to be. Hint.

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Nod your head,like you "understand". Hint.

To reach the 700yd+ line from a 50yd zero,takes a FF's bottomed out erector and all of the windshield.Hint.

Just sayin'.

Thank me later.

Hint.................


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No doubt about it

But the distance mentioned was only around 300 yds


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Stick, Etoh,
Thanks for all the info. Please go slow with me (I'm being serious) as this is all new to me. Schiitt, I've already saved a lot of $'s tonight!
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Originally Posted by Etoh
It should be kept in mind at what range the particular 22lr ammo you do use goes subsonic. So the if the most expensive, best stuff you use goes sub at the longer range you plan to shoot, it will all be for naught.
JBM Ballistic program is free and they have most 22lr in their pull down choices. give it a try.


Good post thanks.

I picked up a Martini MK-II International last summer and put a 25X Weaver on it with the Burris insert rings. Looking forward to doing some long-rang shooting with it for fun in the off season.

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OP if you look Sticks first post, the 10x SWFA he shows and uses a lot is a very good choice.

an important thing to notice is that it has no parallax adjustment and is still used effectively to longer distances

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Originally Posted by Etoh
OP if you look Sticks first post, the 10x SWFA he shows and uses a lot is a very good choice.

an important thing to notice is that it has no parallax adjustment and is still used effectively to longer distances



As plainly cited prior...Etoh is fhuqking CLUELESS. Hint. Congratulations?!?

One of the numerous mechanical advantages inherent the Fixed Fhuqker lineage,is that they adjust parallax down to(and typically inside of) 10 Meters. Hint.

I've seen me scribe parallax to zero range,as an unequalled witness mark...though I only have 80 of 'em or so. Hint.

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I do REALLY enjoy Window Lickers trying to 'talk" rifles and give "particulars" on wares they've never even seen,let alone "used". Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though!

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Oh I see your using the SWFAs with the rear parallax (focus) rather than their earlier non models. Certainly makes them cheaper to make as compared side focus. Your relatively new to the shooting sports so you probably never saw those. Certainly got me beat on number count though.


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Should get you started. Everything here from intro to compulsory repetitive narcissism. Laughlin

Another good source is Rimfire Central on the web


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Etoh,

What were the "odds" that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you also "just happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot? Hint. Congratulations?!?

There has never been a Fixed Fhuqker less parallax adjustment...but feel free to continue talking out your ass,because you are doing GREAT. Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

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A little late to the party...

Keep in mind that with most SV ammo it will take 37 to 39 MOA of scope adjustment to go from a 100-yard zero to 300-yards (as far as we are currently shooting). According to Strelok Pro (Android or iOS) an additional 50 MOA of adjustment will be needed to get you to 500-yards w/o trying to use the scope's reticule to judge hold over.

I have been shooting with a group of guys every Thursday at targets from 75-yards out to 300-yards for the past two years. All but one uses a ballistic program called Strelok Pro which allows for multiple BC's as the bullet slows in the subsonic range the BC will increase. By using three or four different BC's the predicted/calculated sight correction becomes somewhat more accurate.

As already mentioned, extreme spread (ES) is your enemy but the wind is just as much if not even more significant. The ES for CCI SV runs around 50 fps where SK Long Range is around 22 fps. It does make a difference once past about 150 yards or so.

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Thought about this a fair bit have the following suggestions:

Assumptions
-young with good eyes, muscle tone and reflexes
-3 cases of Remington Thunderbolt ammo on hand and no idea what to do with them
-spectacular determination

Get an old Ruger Mk 1, factory original. Might work.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Long Range rimfire is predicated upon mechanics and deepest erector wins by default. Hint.

The MQ Reticle is only 10 Mils deep,whether Fixed [bleep],3-9x,3-15x or 5-20x. NOTHING can hang with a 6x and 10x Fixed Fhuqker there,due their unequalled erector travel. Hint.

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Everything below a 50yd zero on the erector...is 100% fhuqking USELESS. Hint.

75 MoMo 1913's are THE place to be. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]
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Nod your head,like you "understand". Hint.

To reach the 700yd+ line from a 50yd zero,takes a FF's bottomed out erector and all of the windshield.Hint.

Just sayin'.

Thank me later.

Hint.................

What happened to the tunerfied Anschutz? Get any gains with the tuner? Not sure I can go back to shooting sans suppressor but really want to screw with a harrell's since they're local. Need to switch out the 6's for 10's on the T1X's too.



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The 700yd line in most of my barrels,is 44.1 Mils of ele correction from a 50yd zero in Today's atmosphere. Hint.

The 300yd line is but 11.3 Mils. Turnbolts all. Hint.

I've not seen the Charley Tuneh in a coupla lustrum.(grin)

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A Tuner's Swan Song is much sweeter music,upon longer spouts. It's all but moot on a rigid 18-incher. Never liked 'em,but have dabbled 'em for many moons. Pass a 16.5" to 18" spout and hold the Fluff. Often when you go longer,schit slows down anyhow and rest assured...I've chopped more than a fhuqking few,keeping notes along the way. Hint.

With Utility Camp Run Fodder in my typical atmosphere,the transonic slip ala turnbolt is right at 50yds,so a guy doesn't need a quiver full of fhuqking BC's to factor come-ups. Self Shuckers are quite a bit closer to the muzzle,with like Fodder/Atmosphere and typically in the 15yd realm. HINT.

This schit never ain't not fhuqking HILARIOUS!

Bless their hearts for trying though.

Hint.

Laughing!..................


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OP, I've been shooting a couple match 54's at distance for over three decades. Anschutz Fortner also. I prioritize my setup as ammo and optic being most important, and lastly the rifle.

Match grade subsonic ammo is crucial because you want it to go out the barrel UNDER the sound barrier so they do not fall through it on the way downrange which plays hell with bullet stability. Even more importantly, and counterintuitively to many guys, but well documented, is subsonic 22 ammo bucks the wind better than the fast stuff. Wind calls in this game are often tougher than vertical trajectory challenges. If temperature extremes are an issue then the answer is biathlon ammo.

Next, the optic is a huge factor and love or hate Stick, he is exactly right about the scope issues. Thirty years of this has given me time to try many scopes and I've yet to see the scope that will equal the fixed 10 SS at this game. And I've bolted a lot of scopes on my Annies. You would be amazed at how many Leupold, Vortex, Zeiss, Nikon, and other scopes have been exposed as defective by my Anschutz's and match ammo.

Finally the rifle will suffice if it has a decent trigger and can put together a good group. Does not have to be very expensive. I'd be willing to compromise on the rifle more than the scope or ammo. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by rwa3006
OP, I've been shooting a couple match 54's at distance for over three decades. Anschutz Fortner also. I prioritize my setup as ammo and optic being most important, and lastly the rifle.

Match grade subsonic ammo is crucial because you want it to go out the barrel UNDER the sound barrier so they do not fall through it on the way downrange which plays hell with bullet stability. Even more importantly, and counterintuitively to many guys, but well documented, is subsonic 22 ammo bucks the wind better than the fast stuff. Wind calls in this game are often tougher than vertical trajectory challenges. If temperature extremes are an issue then the answer is biathlon ammo.

Next, the optic is a huge factor and love or hate Stick, he is exactly right about the scope issues. Thirty years of this has given me time to try many scopes and I've yet to see the scope that will equal the fixed 10 SS at this game. And I've bolted a lot of scopes on my Annies. You would be amazed at how many Leupold, Vortex, Zeiss, Nikon, and other scopes have been exposed as defective by my Anschutz's and match ammo.

Finally the rifle will suffice if it has a decent trigger and can put together a good group. Does not have to be very expensive. I'd be willing to compromise on the rifle more than the scope or ammo. Good luck.


Thank you so much, very understandible.
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Not seeing or hearing about a high end 10/22 in this scenario. Is there a place for one?

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Originally Posted by rwa3006
OP, I've been shooting a couple match 54's at distance for over three decades. Anschutz Fortner also. I prioritize my setup as ammo and optic being most important, and lastly the rifle.

Match grade subsonic ammo is crucial because you want it to go out the barrel UNDER the sound barrier so they do not fall through it on the way downrange which plays hell with bullet stability. Even more importantly, and counterintuitively to many guys, but well documented, is subsonic 22 ammo bucks the wind better than the fast stuff. Wind calls in this game are often tougher than vertical trajectory challenges. If temperature extremes are an issue then the answer is biathlon ammo.

Next, the optic is a huge factor and love or hate Stick, he is exactly right about the scope issues. Thirty years of this has given me time to try many scopes and I've yet to see the scope that will equal the fixed 10 SS at this game. And I've bolted a lot of scopes on my Annies. You would be amazed at how many Leupold, Vortex, Zeiss, Nikon, and other scopes have been exposed as defective by my Anschutz's and match ammo.

Finally the rifle will suffice if it has a decent trigger and can put together a good group. Does not have to be very expensive. I'd be willing to compromise on the rifle more than the scope or ammo. Good luck.


Best post so far to help the OP. ^^^


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