Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Which cartridges has the 6.5 Creed hurt most

I don't believe it's hurt anything around here, at least to my knowledge. Personally, I know one guy who owns one. I certainly expect there are more in the area but when a bunch of "gun guys" are gathered and discussing rifles and cartridges it's rare the 6.5 Creedmoor is mentioned except in passing or as another "new" cartridge that doesn't actually "do" anything more than many others. I "know" several guys on various forums who have one but they live quite a ways from me.

As far as my experience with 6.5 caliber cartridges and rifles, they're nothing new to me. I was shooting a 264 Win. Mag. back in the late 70's and by the early 80's had pretty much wrung out the 6.5 Swede in 2-3 different rifles. I settled on the 6.5 X 54 Mannlicher/Schoenauer as much because of the 1903 M/S rifle as the cartridge...maybe a little more. So, when all the hoopla started about the evidently incomparable 6.5 Creedmoor I was more than a little perplexed. Heck, there's been great 6.5 cartridges since before the turn of the 20th century. US shooters have just been a lot slow on the uptake of how good the caliber actually is. I didn't understand why all the ink, hype and arguing over another 6.5 cal. cartridge that ballistically does no more, or less, than a couple dozen others. All it is, is more popular, better advertised and evidently a little higher developed than most other 6.5 cartridges. It's a good 6.5 cartridge but so are a couple dozen others. If a fella wants one, by all means, get it, grin the whole time you're shooting it and take a pile of game with it!!! It's certainly capable. Just don't delude yourself into thinking you bought the best 6.5 cartridge that ever existed because you didn't. Most popular......maybe...in the US. I doubt it's hurt the 6.5 X 55 Swede or 6.5 X 57 Mauser on a world wide basis.

Such a fun topic because of lovers and haters
Hank

It CRUSHED the 308,270 and '06...in no particular order. Congratulations?!?

Pavement Pounders have zero inkling. Hint.

Pretty funny actually.

Hint................

Please enlighten us on this bs, of which you speak.

What would Walmart do? Hire Bigstick to keep the women’s clothing department current.

He be in the husky girls section.

I noticed that the local farm store had exactly 17 factory loads for the 6.5 CM. Not that it matters one whit to me.im not butt hurt or influenced by what the masses buy or shoot. Happy Trails

I was thinking about this question

And there is a lot of ways to take it

One way what cartridges has the 6.5 hurt in New gun sales

Seldom do I hear I bought a new,270 or 06
For sure

Its gets compared to 308 lots but I think 308 hold up well

I have a few 6.5s myself

Hank

308 has WORLDWIDE military pedigree and more than half a century head start. It hasnt been hurt a bit I can assure you.

In addition to a primo hunting and target round, the 308 has tacti-fg appeal as well. Pretty sure it’s as safe as safe can get. The ONLY round hotter currently is the 6.5 and time will tell with that one

308 has a long track record of success for 1000 yard matches, but the 6.5 has hurt it in this regard.

I’d say 260 never got the love it deserved in the first place, but 6.5 CM seems like a magic wand these days.

I’ve never used a 243 for whitetail, but I made my minimum a 260 (my taste).

I currently have 2) 260’s and just last night decided to test the 6.5 CM out.

If I had to toss out more calibers than the 308, I’d have to say 270 and 30-06.

I would have to say the 260 Rem, it was never offered by many manufacturers, was only marginally supported and promoted by Remington, very little factory ammo support. The 6.5 Creed will be the last nail in its coffin.

drover

Some might say that the 6.5cm has generated more interest in the 260.

I think the 7-08 generated new interest in the 7x57

+1

Agreed! I bought a 7mm-08 last year and have been very pleased with the results. It has been devastating on deer. Plus, in my resident state of Kentucky, in the unlikely event I ever get drawn for an elk tag, I could use the 7mm-08. The state minimum caliber is .270.

Thank goodness Coyote Hunter set me straight, I hunt Elk from 8-12,000’

I almost traded my ‘06 in for a pair of tennis shoes at the police buy back

I have a browning a-bolt Boss w a 20” barrel and a suppressor screwed on instead of the BOSS

Shoots hornady 165 grain 3/4” group hot barrel cold barrel dirty barrel whatever, I could mess w the BOSS settings and maybe get it tighter

2900fps factory load

I was looking at the 6.5cm 143g and they are talking 2650 out of a 20”, factory threaded barrels seem to be 18”, slower yet

Based on coyote hunters calcs, the short barrel suppressed 6.5cm is good to 300y?

I think I will hang on to the 25y old ‘06 and pay cash for the gym shoes

Btw - I shot an Elk between the eyes at 440y last year with this set up

I would imagine the cartridge that's been hurt the single most is 7MM08.
If I lost everything and had to start over, the only short action cartridge I would own would be 6.5Creedmoor.

I was looking to get my son new rifle. either the 6.5CM or 7-08. I already have 270 and 06, and didn't want 243 or 308
went to Sportsmans and there had to be 4 times more ammo of 6.5 vs 7-08 and some boxes half the price. Now, I do reload, but sometimes in a pinch or emergency... 7-08 just ins't there.

Why?

I seriously doubt that anyone knows if any cartridge has been negatively affected. You'd have to sit in at the board meetings of the various companies for a statement of annual sales.
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I think that these are the best replies in the thread.

The smart ones, the people who are looking to buy a rifle that approximates this power factor, should take a copy of this thread to their local gun shop. Scour the used rack. The 243 and 270 seem to be the ones most people have suggested are hurting. If you agree with this pronouncement, you have a golden opportunity to get an exceptional price on a VG or "as new" 243 or 270. Show them this thread. There must be a lot of dusty, grimy examples you can buy cheap. Your LGS doesn't want to be stuck with rifles that are hard to sell, so help them out and offer to take one of these obsolete cartridges off their hands. From what I read here, they will be motivated sellers.

Of course, you have to actually believe that a 243 or 270 is capable of harvesting game. Regardless, I want to thank the Creedmoor buyers for creating these opportunities. In my own case, I got a VG condition 1943 M38 6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser Sporter for $190 US.



I don't hate the 6.5 Creedmoor at all, and I don't believe that it's hurting any cartridge. It's another option. The 6.5 Creedmoor is the latest in a growing number of cartridges whose makers claim is the end all, be all of the hunting/competition crowd. I wonder how many people will jump off a bridge when it is usurped by the next, greatest offering?

Even as I type, ballisticians the world over are hard at work, developing the next, best cartridge.

Yawn. The older I get, the less caught up I am on the latest and greatest. I don't hate the 6.5CM and would own one in a rifle that tickled my fancy. But Im not going to sell off all my other calibers and only shoot the 6.5. Lifes too short to eat only one flavor of icecream.