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Lack of imagination and guts, excess of gullibility.

Sure is.

if the repubs would actually implement a catharsis, and eject the rino's, then they would pick up a ton of libertarian votes. but it might not be enough in the way of numbers to offset the rino component that was expelled.

but therein lies the problem. the trade-off abounds.

i hold to my position of belief that most libertarians vote the repub ticket while holding their noses.

Really? Tell that to a Virginia gun owner.

It's hard for me to believe that every other GOP candidate on that ballot won easily, and Bevin lost. I always vote straight ticket, and figured most people did too.

As far as third-parties go, I most fervently hope that somebody runs as a full-fledged Socialist Party candidate in 2020. Polls show that lots of young idiots think socialism would be great. Let them vote for an admitted one instead of a veiled one like the Democrats. A couple million votes from the 10 biggest cities ought to do it...


...to re-elect Trump.

I'm mistaken.

The Republican Attorney General candidate. got 823,000 votes while the Republican candidate for Governor only got 704,500 votes.

Still,..it seems odd that every Republican running got more votes than the Republican candidate for Governor.

Yes it does. I smell fish.

I'm not for sure there was any more fraud than usual, just voters who didn't like the job Bevin was doing, and were willing punish him by electing a damned liberal. Those people deserve whatever Beshear screws them with.

If there's any good news to be had from the Kentucky election, it's that Beshear is going to be limited in what he can do by the number of Republicans that got elected.

Still,..I think the pension debt will get bigger during his time in office even though taxes will rise.

It's just a damn shame. I think 4 more years of Bevin would have gotten Kentucky in decent financial condition. But now, it's going to be those old Kentucky politics that put it in the shape it was in when Bevin took office.

You know, I truthfully don't know that anyone can fix this state. It's too diversified.

I think it's just the pension deal. Kentucky's state pension money was in good shape until 2000. A lot of that money was invested and it took a hit in 2008 and never recovered from it.

Every administration that passes through is going to have to deal with it one way or another. Bevin tried to tighten the state's belt and not allow taxes to go up,...but all of those state employees wouldn't allow it,...voted him out for it.

That can can only be kicked so far down the road and then the state will have to start cutting positions.

That's why I said previously that teachers are going to have 35-40 kids in a class before long.

When a state is paying out all of those pensions,..it's got no money for salaries. They can raise taxes to an extent. But people won't tolerate that for long until they vote the tax raiser out of office.

No money is just no money. People are going to have to pay one way or another. Fewer state employees is going to be one way the price gets paid.

IndyCA35: I share your disdain for the idiotic people who claim to be, and vote, libertarian!
They have screwed more Conservatives out of being elected than the vote stealing demonrats have in the last 40+ years!
Including a number of federal elections here in Montana over the last 20 years.
Sad, stupid and self defeating libertarians just keep on truckin it seems - even though their stupidity and short-sightedness brings immense harm to our country, our society, our laws our judicial system and out tax system.
libertarianism is simply idiocy personified!
I say phuuck them all (the idiot libertarians!) - the long, the short and the tall.
libertarians are simply to ignorant to realize if they voted Republican they would get 75 to 80 percent of their political goals enacted but when they stupidly vote for the libertarian candidate they most often help get the demonrat elected and they get NONE, zip, zero, nada of their goals instigated.
Pathetic.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

As for libertarians,..I think they're mostly yesterday's news. But there's a contest going on on the right for what ideology should define the GOP. Young conservatives aren't satisfied with the leftward drift of the GOP and many want it to more closely reflect Nationalism.

Those people are a large reason that Trump got elected and they won't show up to vote for any "Jebs" that get the GOP nomination.

Trump is as mild of a GOP candidate as they will accept,..and the GOP won't be nominating anyone that's more Nationalistic than Trump.

The Libertarian Party is the fastest growing party in the country with a 92% increase in registered members in the past 10 years.
The young folks are flocking to it. They are sick of the socialist left and the authoritarian right with both party's spending money like crazy.
They see that choosing the lesser of two evils is still getting evil.
Do you want lots of gun control or just some gun control? Hint- "Take the guns first due process later" DJT
Do you want the left to tell you what you can say or do or do you want the right to tell you what to say or do?
Do you want huge taxes and spending or just lots of deficit spending?
Endless wars- both party's.
People more and more just want liberty and the government to just leave them alone and you can't get that from ether party.

Libertarian vote is a vote democrats these days. With all the voter fraud and cheating a democrat does not need more help to win.

a lot of libertarians who walk amongst us have no problem w/nationalism if it is structured properly.

trump has done a great job, pretty much alone i might add.

but, the game hasn't played out, not yet.

more help is coming for his support.

The problem with Libertarians is,...they have no ideology. The closest they ever came to being defined was when Ron Paul made his run in 2008 and 2012. And even then the majority of people who supported Ron Paul weren't Libertarians. They were just people who were fed up with the status quo and wanted to be represented.

To say that the Libertarian party has grown is just to say that more people are disgusted with the Democrats and Republicans. It has no leadership and it has no genuine vision. You can't even get Libertarians to agree on open or closed borders.

Basically,...although some people may demonstrate their disagreement with status quo politics by registering as a Libertarian, it's going nowhere,..regardless of the number of people who identify as Libertarian.

The movement has no genuine vision for how the country should be governed.

Pretty much right.

Yet we have the likes of Mittens as a republican.........