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The problem with Libertarians is,...they have no ideology. The closest they ever came to being defined was when Ron Paul made his run in 2008 and 2012. And even then the majority of people who supported Ron Paul weren't Libertarians. They were just people who were fed up with the status quo and wanted to be represented.

To say that the Libertarian party has grown is just to say that more people are disgusted with the Democrats and Republicans. It has no leadership and it has no genuine vision. You can't even get Libertarians to agree on open or closed borders.

Basically,...although some people may demonstrate their disagreement with status quo politics by registering as a Libertarian, it's going nowhere,..regardless of the number of people who identify as Libertarian.

The movement has no genuine vision for how the country should be governed.

Really? Tell that to a Virginia gun owner.

This is interesting. Apparently 823,000 Kentucky Republicans failed to check the box for Governor.

That seems odd.

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The only cause I see gaining any momentum is Nationalism. Trump got elected because of his Nationalist rhetoric.

He hasn't quite lived up to everything he said during his campaign. But the fact remains that his "America First" Nationalist rhetoric is what generated the support for him.

,...and it's not only in the U.S.A. Nationalism is growing in Western Europe, also.

now that we're becoming more aware, just how best to deal with some 7.5 billion humans on the face of the earth??

There's been a great amount of discussion about the Kentucky Governor's race since election day. Republican Matt Bevin lost his reelection to Democrat Andy Beshear by approximately 5,000 votes - while Libertarian John Hicks received over 28,000 votes.

Republican supporting organizations and conservative media spent much of yesterday accusing the Libertarian Party and Mr. Hicks of spoiling the election, and getting a Democrat elected. The consensus among supporters of Governor Bevin is that if our Party hadn't been in the race, he wouldn't have lost his bid for reelection.

There's something that needs to be made clear, for Republicans and the Media moving forward: we are a political party. We run candidates to represent voters that aren't being represented by the current system. Andy Beshear ran on a progressive, big government platform full of spending growth. Matt Bevin ran on a social conservative platform that railed against what Libertarians believe should be the function of government in our personal lives. Neither of those candidates earned the votes of over 28,000 Kentuckians.

Neither of those candidates deserved those votes. Neither of them are entitled to those votes - because neither candidate represented the voting bloc. As long as there are people looking to do the right thing, and vote for the right candidate instead of sticking to rigid partisanship in their elections, we'll be there to give them a voice. And the more that assumptions are made about those voters, the more disenfranchised they will become with the old parties. More will turn out to the ballot boxes to cast dissenting votes against the two-party system. More will recognize that our system isn't broken because of "the other side", but because of BOTH "sides."

And because of that, there WILL be more Libertarians in elected office. We won a swath of local elections on Tuesday. Libertarians are preparing to make huge changes on the local level across the country. Get ready.

I don't think the libertarian vote is as much of a threat as some people see it.

The libertarian vote is a protest vote. The people who turn out to vote libertarian wouldn't bother to vote at all if there wasn't a libertarian on the ballot.

Democrats give money to Libertarians where the Libertarians are stronger to split the Republican party. Republicans need to give to Green party to split the Dem's votes.

The problem with Libertarians is,...they have no ideology. The closest they ever came to being defined was when Ron Paul made his run in 2008 and 2012. And even then the majority of people who supported Ron Paul weren't Libertarians. They were just people who were fed up with the status quo and wanted to be represented.

To say that the Libertarian party has grown is just to say that more people are disgusted with the Democrats and Republicans. It has no leadership and it has no genuine vision. You can't even get Libertarians to agree on open or closed borders.

Basically,...although some people may demonstrate their disagreement with status quo politics by registering as a Libertarian, it's going nowhere,..regardless of the number of people who identify as Libertarian.

The movement has no genuine vision for how the country should be governed.

Look, I get it.