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Not even close.......................
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So let me get this straight.
Pres of Ukraine didn't know why aid was withheld. Ukraine never investigated anything. Ukraine got aid in the amounts agreed upon.
And there is a problem?????? I guess I have a hard time seeing it.
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MM, Google "public corruption" laws, that is what the House is looking to prove. Which public corruption law?
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You asked, there are laws on the books against swamp behavior. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
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Just heard Starr. Not even close. He was just quoting s hitforbrains Schiff..
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Just heard Starr. Not even close. He was just quoting s hitforbrains Schiff.. Wrong thread Jorge.
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That statute only applies to US officials. What US official did trump bribe?
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Sondland appears to be suffering from buyers remorse.
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That statute only applies to US officials. What US official did trump bribe? Nope! The law is not that narrowly written.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
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Sondland and Dems just took some major butt hurt from Turner.
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So.. A Republican President, wants to investigate his #1 Political opponent of the Democratic Party would in what world be bipartisan.
Maybe if you were not the worlds greatest producer of dingleberries and the least thoughtful navelgazer you might look into Burisma yourself. Easy to do just type it into the search bar. Wouldn't you want the corruption of a candidate for the presidency brought out?
He could just drop hints in the press... and it blow up anyway.
Or he could do like Hillary did, pay Russians and Ukrainians millions to dig up dirt on the Demrat nominee which is not Biden and will not be Biden.
He instead used Congressional bipartisan approved Military aid, to get another country to investigate his main political opponent in the Democratic Party..
Still stupid I see, So it is not important to you that our tax dollars should not go to a corrupt country? Or that Ukraine's involvement in the 2016 election was wrong and greatly pissed Trump off?
Why not call FBI... they would do it for him.
Like I would trust the FBI if I were Trump. You still are clueless.
Next Democratic President should just get China and Russia to investigate the entire Republican Party, so they could use that information in every congressional and senate elections the next 10 years... Totally bipartisan...
Back to Hillary again, she had the DNC go to Ukraine to meet Russians and corrupt Ukrainians to do the same thing in 2016, what Trump is trying to get to the bottom of.
In return they could just give them the Treasonous South as payments.
Come on down and try to collect jackass.
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Did the little Sicilian fellow from “The Princess Bride” go into politics?
“My horn is full and my pouch is stocked with ball and patch. There is a new, sharp flint in my lock and my rifle and I are ready. It is sighted true and my eyes can still aim.”
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Sondland and Dems just took some major butt hurt from Turner. Pretty devastating, but Schitt is once again, twisting what was said. MM
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I know, non corroborated and presumed testimony (within Sondland’s mind) is fine with Schiff.
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How in the hell can Sondland say there was quid pro quo and then he says Trump told him he wanted nothing, nothing, no quid pro quo?
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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How in the hell can Sondland say there was quid pro quo and then he says Trump told him he wanted nothing, nothing, no quid pro quo? That's what I want to know.
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That statute only applies to US officials. What US official did trump bribe? Nope! The law.is not that narrowly written. You need to read the definition of “public official” in the first paragraph
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You need to read the subsequent paragraphs, only one US official needs to be part of the swamp behaviour.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
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I'm not watching this chit because it's all a charade. The Democrats were going to find something to try and impeach Trump.......period. They thought they had it with the Mueller Report, and when they did not, Trump did one of the dumbest things a sitting president has ever done, and gave them the Ukraine call. He should never have made the phone call in the first place, and if he were going to, it should have been done in TOTAL secrecy. What he did was nothing that hasn't been done in Washington before, and will most certainly happen again. While a dumb move, I don't see it as anywhere close to impeachment.
I can't stand listening to all sides see who can tell the biggest lie, and watch the Democrats march out dumbass after dumbass trying to pass them off as some kind of expert on foreign policy. They wanted Trump so badly, that they would have tried impeaching him over pissing in the wrong bathroom at the White House........and he probably would have accommodated them by doing just that.
I just want this crap to hurry up and end.
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Trump needs to be more careful of who he sells million dollar ambassadorships to.
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