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I read online that the new M70's are no longer made here in the USA. Is this true or just bad info?
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Not sure exactly when the change, but they've been made in the FN factory in Belgium for several years. They moved production to the nSouth Carolina FN factory in 2008, but that is where FN makes military rifles, they just didn't have the room for production as I understand it.
Most people don't really want the truth.
They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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OK, Thanks. I have the ultimate shadow .30-06 that was made in South Carolina. I think I will hang onto it. Not sure if it will gain in value or not being made here in the U.S.
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I think you will find they are made in Portugal now. Yes, seriously.
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Last one I bought was stamped "Made in Portugal by Browning Viana".
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Not sure exactly when the change, but they've been made in the FN factory in Belgium for several years. They moved production to the nSouth Carolina FN factory in 2008, but that is where FN makes military rifles, they just didn't have the room for production as I understand it. They were never made in Belgium. Where did you come up with that info?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Not sure exactly when the change, but they've been made in the FN factory in Belgium for several years. They moved production to the nSouth Carolina FN factory in 2008, but that is where FN makes military rifles, they just didn't have the room for production as I understand it. They were never made in Belgium. Where did you come up with that info? Come on now don’t you remember those Belgium made model 70’s🤪
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Not sure exactly when the change, but they've been made in the FN factory in Belgium for several years. They moved production to the nSouth Carolina FN factory in 2008, but that is where FN makes military rifles, they just didn't have the room for production as I understand it. They were never made in Belgium. Where did you come up with that info? Come on now don’t you remember those Belgium made model 70’s🤪 Uh sure, ok..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have a Ultimate Shadow stainless M70 made in Utah.
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Reads “MADE IN USA *BACO INC MORGAN UTAH” correct? Will be a made in SC if so. No actual production occurred in UT.
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I have a Ultimate Shadow stainless M70 made in Utah. Yep those ones were made at temple square in Salt Lake City 🤪.. model 70 was made at one of 3 places 1- New Haven, CT 1936-2005 2- Columbia, SC 2008-2013 3- Portugal 2014- they were never made anywhere else..
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I have a Ultimate Shadow stainless M70 made in Utah. Yep those ones were made at temple square in Salt Lake City 🤪.. model 70 was made at one of 3 places 1- New Haven, CT 1936-2005 2- Columbia, SC 2008-2013 3- Portugal 2014- they were never made anywhere else.. You started off saying they were made in Utah, then three other places. Then said they were only made in the last three places. I'm confused, which is it made in 3 places or 4. Not trying to be smart aleck, just trying to learn.
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The Utah part was a joke. They were never made there.
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I missed the joke. I have always loved the 94, but never a fan of any of the others. Just trying to learn something.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Grandpa:the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dad:son you have 2 choices for supper eat or don't eat.
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I missed the joke. I have always loved the 94, but never a fan of any of the others. Just trying to learn something. Temple square was the clue to it being a joke..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Some .35Rems were reportedly made in Shanghai....
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I read online that the new M70's are no longer made here in the USA. Is this true or just bad info? No, but don't worry Model 70 is based on Springfield military rifle which was modification of Mauser 98 so is good the guns parts are made someplace in EU and assembled in Portugal. Look, Bergara rifles are made in Spain and many say are superior to current Remington 700s. Think of the World as an island, it's all good. Plenty of used ones from CT out there at affordable prices.
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The Utah part was a joke. They were never made there.
I missed the joke. I have always loved the 94, but never a fan of any of the others. Just trying to learn something. Temple square was the clue to it being a joke.. That's why I dont go looking for old Winchesters or Savages. I dont know enough about them to know what I'm looking at.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Grandpa:the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dad:son you have 2 choices for supper eat or don't eat.
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The last thing I saw was that the actions are made here, then assembled in Portugal, where the stocks have come from since FN took over. I've also read that the current ones are the best in a long time, certainly better than late New Haven ones. If and when it makes sense to move production elsewhere, I expect they will, even back here. Many Browning guns have been put together in Portugal over the years, even A5s for a time.
If that bothers you, buy something else.
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I have a Ultimate Shadow stainless M70 made in Utah. Yep those ones were made at temple square in Salt Lake City 🤪.. model 70 was made at one of 3 places 1- New Haven, CT 1936-2005 2- Columbia, SC 2008-2013 3- Portugal 2014- they were never made anywhere else.. That's why the mormons put a big wall around it and dug a ditch.
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