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Leave it be. Buy some nickel-plated brass for the .222 to help you keep it separate. I'm using that trick to keep the brass used for light Trail Boss loads separate from the real ones, in case the shoulders get pushed back and to keep from taking a poke at Bambi with a 1200fps load. Already had the shiny brass.
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Hey Pappy, where'd you get the nickeled .222 brass?
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I had this conversion done on an older Remington 722 that was given to my daughter, mainly because she couldn't find .222 ammo anywhere near where she lived. It shot just as good as or maybe a little better as a .223. She shot it quite a bit, and ended up selling it for a good price to a friend of hers who uses it for fur harvesting.
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Hey Pappy, where'd you get the nickeled .222 brass? Sorry, that was .308 brass. Never looked for nickeled .222, just assumed it would be available. Guess I'd better check or withdraw my idea. A Sharpie might do the trick too. EDIT: Just looked and Midway has a bunch of nickeled, but no .222. A feller could reform nickeled .223 I suppose, but don't know if the plating would cause a problem. They have nickel 6.5 Grendel, .30 Carbine, .375 Win, and others I never would have expected.
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Morning, hope its going good. Years ago I had a 222 opened for 223 it was on HR single shot . It would split necks all the time. Took it back to gun shop & the second smith in there shop said it shouldn't have been done & said to go to 222mag. Not interested so they gave me credit for it's worth . Maybe it was done wrong in the first place ???? Ya could go to the22-204 that would clean up the chamber or yes 222mag but cases for 204 are everywhere . Hope it helps. It would clean everything up & I don't think the cases would fit into yr 223???? Bill out 🐾👣🐾👣🇨🇦
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Not real difficult to set up and cut though one might have to make a fixture. I use a Palmgren milling attachment to hold the barrel and drive the reamer from the headstock. There are numerous ways to accomplish the same task. GD
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You seem like a pretty intelligent fella, so what's the problem with keeping .222's separate from .223's? I own 6 .30-06's and can keep their individually tailored loads apart from each other, and my intelligence is debatable sometimes! I might utterly brilliant, but I'm stupid a lot. I toss ammo from my pockets all sorts of places in my haste and get everything intermixed. It would be simpler to have no 222 at all, and the ammo is very expensive in comparison. My limited income now makes me do things I would never consider otherwise. I can have the work done for free, but it appears there is too much chance my 222 has too generous a chamber for this to work.
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Also, the work would be done by a friend who is a very skillful machinist, makes precision aircraft parts, does gunsmithing, and builds large caliber military type barrels on contract. He has a modern shop with all sorts of precision equipment. I have no fear of his skills, and he will soon make me a set of claw rings for a second scope for my 6.5X57R drilling that has a ginormous scope on it now. Maybe a chamber cast first would be in order?
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You seem like a pretty intelligent fella, so what's the problem with keeping .222's separate from .223's? I own 6 .30-06's and can keep their individually tailored loads apart from each other, and my intelligence is debatable sometimes! I might utterly brilliant, but I'm stupid a lot.
I toss ammo from my pockets all sorts of places in my haste and get everything intermixed. It would be simpler to have no 222 at all, and the ammo is very expensive in comparison. My limited income now makes me do things I would never consider otherwise. I can have the work done for free, but it appears there is too much chance my 222 has too generous a chamber for this to work. Might you try to shoot say, an elk with say, a .22/250 cartridge in a 7/08? (Probably a wasted dig, since ol' Flave's among the missing, but he might be lurking)
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You could tell the difference between 222 and 223 in the dark. Those rounds are not alike despite same bore and head size. You may be surprised at the response if put that rifle up for sale. Many of us have handloaded 222 for years and could care less what's in the Big Box. Paying attention to the twist was an excellent suggestion.
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My opinion, for what it's worth, is that none of the reasons you give provide a compelling argument for what you want to do. I'm sure many of us here have .222's and .223's (I do) and never have had a problem keeping ammunition sorted out. The longer neck on .222 is very obvious (at least to me.) There would be no appreciable performance gain and I'm almost sure bullets heavier than 55 grains would be out of the picture. It's a nice gun, a little unusual, leave it be.
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what do you want for it??
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You seem like a pretty intelligent fella, so what's the problem with keeping .222's separate from .223's? I own 6 .30-06's and can keep their individually tailored loads apart from each other, and my intelligence is debatable sometimes! I might utterly brilliant, but I'm stupid a lot.
I toss ammo from my pockets all sorts of places in my haste and get everything intermixed. It would be simpler to have no 222 at all, and the ammo is very expensive in comparison. My limited income now makes me do things I would never consider otherwise. I can have the work done for free, but it appears there is too much chance my 222 has too generous a chamber for this to work. Might you try to shoot say, an elk with say, a .22/250 cartridge in a 7/08? (Probably a wasted dig, since ol' Flave's among the missing, but he might be lurking) More like a 270 round in an '06.
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Bruce,
You're not stupid--you're nuts!
And I state that fondly, after our years of acquaintance and mutual "nutness" about various firearms.
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Bruce,
You're not stupid--you're nuts!
And I state that fondly, after our years of acquaintance and mutual "nutness" about various firearms. Well...OK then What's the initiation like into The Cult of the Triple-Deuce? Will it hurt? To ascend up the ranks will I eventually have to get a Scandinavian bolt action and an Uber-Glass scope? I relent.
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I resemble that remark. Sako Vixen 222 Rem It does earn it's keep though Then there is a nice Model 70 222 Rem. if you want to save a buck And if you need something to kill Blue Bottle flies at a hundred Custom Savage The 222 Rem kind of grows on you once you get to know it. Invest in a Sav. Axis to shoot up that 223 ammo so you can resize the brass it to 222 Rem.
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Bruce,
You're not stupid--you're nuts!
And I state that fondly, after our years of acquaintance and mutual "nutness" about various firearms. Well...OK then What's the initiation like into The Cult of the Triple-Deuce? Will it hurt? To ascend up the ranks will I eventually have to get a Scandinavian bolt action and an Uber-Glass scope? I relent. Painless, totally painless. In fact, every time my Scandinavian bolt gun is at the bench, its Nirvana. 70 Speer semi pointed soft points have shot just under an inch in my gun. Chronographed the load, but can't recall the mv.
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Hey Pappy, where'd you get the nickeled .222 brass? Sorry, that was .308 brass. Never looked for nickeled .222, just assumed it would be available. Guess I'd better check or withdraw my idea. A Sharpie might do the trick too. EDIT: Just looked and Midway has a bunch of nickeled, but no .222. A feller could reform nickeled .223 I suppose, but don't know if the plating would cause a problem. They have nickel 6.5 Grendel, .30 Carbine, .375 Win, and others I never would have expected. Nickle 222 casesFederal also made nickle plated 222 Match cases in the 80s. Some are still floating around. Being around salt air is the only advantage to them and it would have to be pretty bad to go that route, as every nicked case Remington makes pretty much suck. http://bhshooters.com/rifle_brass.htmI'd consider rechambering to 222 Mag, but not 223. The twist, chamber/throat cleanup and changing the cartridge stamp for starters.
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Hey Pappy, where'd you get the nickeled .222 brass? To keep similar cases apart (or cases for different rifles), make the cases black instead -- much cheaper and more convenient. LINK to buy, about 10 bucksJohn
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Sure is easier than finding those shiny 222 cases.
Maybe I'll go whole-hog and do it into a 22-250!
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