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When speaking of ethnic trends, why do some seek to disprove statements in this regard with evidence of the existence of outliers? If I state that most Cosa Nostra members (nearly all, I would imagine, if not entirely all) are of Italian extraction, who in their right mind would think that I'm stating that all Italians are in the Cosa Nostra?


You would be incorrect in that assessment.

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In very short strokes for starts,
I admit this freely and publicly; the Jewish community is not monolithic in religious convictions or political science opinions.
I should quantify my statements. I am against Marxist Jews. Who can quantify the numbers or percentages?
The laundry list in the vid is as long as your arm.

If I were to have a good faith debate with Jews I would start with the mass migration post 1881, from the Pale to New York. Overwhelmingly they embraced Karl Marx. What was so repulsive about good Protestant John Locke? This is the watershed to my way of thinking. The consequence is found in the efforts of Mikey Weinstein to purge all Christian witness at the AF academy... so much so they purged Augustine just war theory from the academy.

So for starts, in answer to your question, how about a serious debate and discussion of Marx vs Locke and why have so many Jews who fled here for freedom, chosen Marx in defiance and opposition to the prevailing dominant culture, which from 1881 to 1910 was overwhelmingly WASP.


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I admit this freely and publicly; the Jewish community is not monolithic in religious convictions or political science opinions.
I should quantify my statements. I am against Marxist Jews. Who can quantify the numbers or percentages?
The laundry list in the vid is as long as your arm.

If I were to have a good faith debate with Jews I would start with the mass migration post 1881, from the Pale to New York. Overwhelmingly they embraced Karl Marx. What was so repulsive about good Protestant John Locke? This is the watershed to my way of thinking. The consequence is found in the efforts of Mikey Weinstein to purge all Christian witness at the AF academy... so much so they purged Augustine just war theory from the academy.

So for starts, in answer to your question, how about a serious debate and discussion of Marx vs Locke and why have so many Jews who fled here for freedom, chosen Marx in defiance and opposition to the prevailing dominant culture, which from 1881 to 1910 was overwhelmingly WASP.


Why not just oppose Marxist regardless of their other characteristics?

I fail to see how the Chinese Marxist are any better or worse than a European Marxist.

Additionally, you completely disregarded Remsen's story of his family and went right back to condemning all American Jews since 1881.

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I'm not stating that. I'm stating that, akin to Cosa Nostra membership being highly correlated with the Italian ethnic group, organized participation in activities destructive of the Western/Christian/Nationalist tradition (whether it's advocacy of open borders in Western nations in respect to the Third World, particularly for Muslims, advocacy for transgenderism, homosexual marriage, etc., and it's being foisted on Christian Western culture via the MSM and our laws, outlawing firearms, discrimination in hiring and education against Whites, redistributionism, globalism, etc., etc.) is grossly over represented by those of Jewish identity.

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Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
When speaking of ethnic trends, why do some seek to disprove statements in this regard with evidence of the existence of outliers? If I state that most Cosa Nostra members (nearly all, I would imagine, if not entirely all) are of Italian extraction, who in their right mind would think that I'm stating that all Italians are in the Cosa Nostra?


You would be incorrect in that assessment.

List of 70 Jews who were lead characters in the Mafia

No doubt the Jewish Mafia has always dwarfed the Cosa Nostra. Mafia and Cosa Nostra aren't the same things, however, even if the Cosa Nostra is an example of the Mafia. While Mafia literally only refers to the Italian Mafia, it has come to be slang for organized crime, regardless of ethnicity. The Cosa Nostra, however, still refers exclusively to the Italian Mafia.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I'm not stating that. I'm stating that, akin to Cosa Nostra membership being highly correlated with the Italian ethnic group, organized participation in activities destructive of the Western/Christian/Nationalist tradition (whether it's advocacy of open borders in Western nations in respect to the Third World, particularly for Muslims, advocacy for transgenderism, homosexual marriage, etc., and it's being foisted on Christian Western culture via the MSM and our laws, outlawing firearms, discrimination in hiring and education against Whites, redistributionism, globalism, etc., etc.) is grossly over represented by those of Jewish identity.


If you rally want to understand what's going on, spend the seven dollars and educate yourself a bit:


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Lots of folks on the fire are et up with the stoopid. Many of them are from states that elect the stoopid with regularity.

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High voltage wires are not always orange....but orange wires are always high voltage.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
High voltage wires are not always orange....but orange wires are always high voltage.



Assuming your two premises are correct, the conclusion (that orange wire is high voltage) is syllogistically accurate.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Written by this guy:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/what-a-secular-atheist-is-teaching-christian-leaders/

“Within two years of my bar mitzvah, I started calling myself an atheist. And not just an atheist, but one of those atheists that sees religion—Christianity especially—as the opponent, as the enemy

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Written by this guy:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/what-a-secular-atheist-is-teaching-christian-leaders/

“Within two years of my bar mitzvah, I started calling myself an atheist. And not just an atheist, but one of those atheists that sees religion—Christianity especially—as the opponent, as the enemy

I knew, by the source of the recommendation, that the author would be problematic in some significant way, but thanks for making that manifest.

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By your way of arguing I must conclude you wholeheartedly worship at the altar of Nadler-Schiff.
Why do you hate Trump? Why do you want America over run by Mexicans and Moslems?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
When speaking of ethnic trends, why do some seek to disprove statements in this regard with evidence of the existence of outliers? If I state that most Cosa Nostra members (nearly all, I would imagine, if not entirely all) are of Italian extraction, who in their right mind would think that I'm stating that all Italians are in the Cosa Nostra?


You would be incorrect in that assessment.

List of 70 Jews who were lead characters in the Mafia

No doubt the Jewish Mafia has always dwarfed the Cosa Nostra. Mafia and Cosa Nostra aren't the same things, however, even if the Cosa Nostra is an example of the Mafia. While Mafia literally only refers to the Italian Mafia, it has come to be slang for organized crime, regardless of ethnicity. The Cosa Nostra, however, still refers exclusively to the Italian Mafia.


How do account for the fact that many of these Jews were members of these Italian families.

Bonanno,Colombo,Gambino,Genovese,Giancana,Luchese.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Written by this guy:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/what-a-secular-atheist-is-teaching-christian-leaders/

“Within two years of my bar mitzvah, I started calling myself an atheist. And not just an atheist, but one of those atheists that sees religion—Christianity especially—as the opponent, as the enemy

Thanks for the link. Very informative.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
High voltage wires are not always orange....but orange wires are always high voltage.




That’s deep😀 Thanks for the chuckle Big Jim.


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Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
When speaking of ethnic trends, why do some seek to disprove statements in this regard with evidence of the existence of outliers? If I state that most Cosa Nostra members (nearly all, I would imagine, if not entirely all) are of Italian extraction, who in their right mind would think that I'm stating that all Italians are in the Cosa Nostra?


You would be incorrect in that assessment.

List of 70 Jews who were lead characters in the Mafia

No doubt the Jewish Mafia has always dwarfed the Cosa Nostra. Mafia and Cosa Nostra aren't the same things, however, even if the Cosa Nostra is an example of the Mafia. While Mafia literally only refers to the Italian Mafia, it has come to be slang for organized crime, regardless of ethnicity. The Cosa Nostra, however, still refers exclusively to the Italian Mafia.


How do account for the fact that many of these Jews were members of these Italian families.

Bonanno,Colombo,Gambino,Genovese,Giancana,Luchese.

A qualification for actual membership in the Cosa Nostra is Italian ethnic ancestry, although they associate with folks of all ethnicities.

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The snake handlers were a misguided sect of holiness and Pentecostal believers, drawn primarily from the Scots Irish of West Virginia. I would rather attend one of their assemblies any day of the week rather than defend sodomite rights baby killing Marxist god-hating commie democrats trying to lynch Trump.

Why do you defend Schiff?


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


Written by this guy:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/what-a-secular-atheist-is-teaching-christian-leaders/

“Within two years of my bar mitzvah, I started calling myself an atheist. And not just an atheist, but one of those atheists that sees religion—Christianity especially—as the opponent, as the enemy

Thanks for the link. Very informative.


Take sometime and read the book.

He has a lot of good things to say about the right, and talks about how both mindsets need each other.

Of course, the two of you are so bent on hate such a message would be lost on you.


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
By your way of arguing I must conclude you wholeheartedly worship at the altar of Nadler-Schiff.
Why do you hate Trump? Why do you want America over run by Mexicans and Moslems?


And you would be wrong. I voted for Trump.


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