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My R19 came included with my steel & frame package came in pre cut lengths for roof & walls...a real PIA to install Heat is Space Ray 50K BTU unit......U Tube style...can extend if so needed IIRC it was approx $1350 for unit...flue...thermostat..etc..self installed Other extra cost was the 148' of 1" Pex gas line & sweeps & 1" black pipe to unit Just measured ceiling height...16' to the center beam to floor...... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Yx5PibJ.jpg)
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My middle girl and her hubby have a barndominium. It is really nice. I would insulate all of it if you can afford it. Our room at work was an add on. It is insulated, but the electricians room next door, was an original part. It the same size but not insulated. It is 30 degrees hotter in the heat of the summer and unbearable. We can sit in ours with no AC in the afternoon. Just the kind of info I was looking for on the insulation. Thanks Hanco! Spray foam insulation? Be careful with spray insulation on raw steel. In a humid climate, you could be looking at rust at the junction of steel and insulation. Don't ask how I know. If you frame with plywood, add the steel to the outside, that's a whole different matter, stronger, tighter building. DF I am a bit confused and concerned. All of the metal building dealers and contractors are recommending closed cell spray foam now. The foam will be applied to painted metal. Well they should know. I had an earlier version of spray insulation applied to an older metal barn roof. After a number of years, had to replace the metal due to rust. It obviously wasn't the current foam spray. Just inquire about their guarantee and assurance it won't hold moisture against the metal. DF
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse...........  ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ew5cV1X.jpg) I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back?
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse........... I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back? Beams are bolted together Engineers added an extra 'wind colume beam' for the known wind in my area Insulation is held in place by the 24 gauge sheeting panels.....sides & roof..lots of bolts My package was around $17K.....concrete including flat & walls about $16K I totally lost track of the final tally on the finished product....wiring...doors...windows..lighting...plumbing... heat..additional insulation..etc.....prob at least another $10K.....did not hire any of that...... Its a nice & tight warm garage......worth every penny spent !
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse........... I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back? Also, how did you attach the OSB to the roof?
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That is a nice garage , tikka.
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse........... I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back? Beams are bolted together Engineers added an extra 'wind colume beam' for the known wind in my area Insulation is held in place by the 24 gauge sheeting panels.....sides & roof..lots of bolts My package was around $17K.....concrete including flat & walls about $16K I totally lost track of the final tally on the finished product....wiring...doors...windows..lighting...plumbing... heat..additional insulation..etc.....prob at least another $10K.....did not hire any of that...... Its a nice & tight warm garage......worth every penny spent ! Thank you, sir! I am looking at building a garage. Just not sure quite how I want to go about it yet.
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse........... I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back? Beams are bolted together Engineers added an extra 'wind colume beam' for the known wind in my area Insulation is held in place by the 24 gauge sheeting panels.....sides & roof..lots of bolts My package was around $17K.....concrete including flat & walls about $16K I totally lost track of the final tally on the finished product....wiring...doors...windows..lighting...plumbing... heat..additional insulation..etc.....prob at least another $10K.....did not hire any of that...... Its a nice & tight warm garage......worth every penny spent ! Thank you, sir! I am looking at building a garage. Just not sure quite how I want to go about it yet. Same here, Greg.
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
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NG is cheap here........thermostat set on 68* Could almost live out there........big doghouse........... I really like that. I trust you wouldn't be offended by a few questions. Is the steel welded or bolted together? How did you attach the insulation and wall siding? Any idea how much that kit would set a fella back? Also, how did you attach the OSB to the roof? 4x8 OSB sheeting is only on the walls....... remember I built 2x4 stud walls filled with R13 Got lazy and only went 8' high with OSB above stem wall..one sheet ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DM7FaqZ.jpg)
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where I bought the package in 2014...... great product & delivery........never had any C/S issues...... https://www.alliedbuildings.com/workshop-buildings/
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Awww...
I was reading this thread quickly at work today and misunderstood this I guess:
"Over top I finished it off with 1/2" OSB sheeting"
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
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There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
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I got my quote from the metal building dealer. At this point it looks like it'll cost me $23,500 to have it erected on a slab. On top of that I'll have to have it insulated, get water run from the road to the building, get electric run from the road to the building and have a septic system installed. Then I'll have to do my interior build out. I was hoping I could be into this in the low 30's but it's looking more like 40K now.
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Or more Paul, I have learned buildings don't jump out of the ground on their own
Good luck with it.
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Running the electrical in a metal building is a pain, especially if you're going to finish part of it to live in and want it to look good. Drill holes thru the metal for the conduit, welding brackets where you want the boxes to be, etc. If you dont mind exposed conduit and electrical boxes and conduit, it's not too bad. Finishing out the inside, depending on the building, may require bolting studs to the walls/ceiling for paneling, drywall, etc.
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I got my quote from the metal building dealer. At this point it looks like it'll cost me $23,500 to have it erected on a slab. On top of that I'll have to have it insulated, get water run from the road to the building, get electric run from the road to the building and have a septic system installed. Then I'll have to do my interior build out. I was hoping I could be into this in the low 30's but it's looking more like 40K now. Not sure exactly how you are going at it but I've never bought anything other than the bare bones raw building from the steel building companies. They have a way of inching the costs up if I even try to get them to add doors to the package. I've always hired local contractors to erect the structures after I have the slab done, building kit, doors and windows I shop out and purchased on site. The various steel building suppliers can be pretty competitive with each other if they know you are shopping between them. It costs ya some phone calls and a little more foot work but can save a considerable amount of money. A one phone call does it all deal sure has it's conveniences but can come at a hefty price.
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Running the electrical in a metal building is a pain, especially if you're going to finish part of it to live in and want it to look good. Drill holes thru the metal for the conduit, welding brackets where you want the boxes to be, etc. If you dont mind exposed conduit and electrical boxes and conduit, it's not too bad. Finishing out the inside, depending on the building, may require bolting studs to the walls/ceiling for paneling, drywall, etc.
I am going to go for that look. I have seen it used very tastefully in modern structures. I think it's kind of cool.
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I got my quote from the metal building dealer. At this point it looks like it'll cost me $23,500 to have it erected on a slab. On top of that I'll have to have it insulated, get water run from the road to the building, get electric run from the road to the building and have a septic system installed. Then I'll have to do my interior build out. I was hoping I could be into this in the low 30's but it's looking more like 40K now. remember the stem wall........I'll bet it rains a lot in your LA neighborhood......  Sure its a 2' concrete wall......but your steel sheeting will be 2' shorter......  Do they do pour concrete walls in your area ? Or cinder block ? Did not connect mine to septic tank....my sink & washing machine drain into a 55 gallon drum filled with screened rock Another thought......vehicle storage ? I have two floor drains that drain into 12" pipe filled with screened rock Our soil here......is like a sponge.......very rocky & drains very well... My power shares the same main panel from my house.......ran an 8 gauge cable to panel in garage...minimal...but enough
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I got my quote from the metal building dealer. At this point it looks like it'll cost me $23,500 to have it erected on a slab. On top of that I'll have to have it insulated, get water run from the road to the building, get electric run from the road to the building and have a septic system installed. Then I'll have to do my interior build out. I was hoping I could be into this in the low 30's but it's looking more like 40K now. Not sure exactly how you are going at it but I've never bought anything other than the bare bones raw building from the steel building companies. They have a way of inching the costs up if I even try to get them to add doors to the package. I've always hired local contractors to erect the structures after I have the slab done, building kit, doors and windows I shop out and purchased on site. The various steel building suppliers can be pretty competitive with each other if they know you are shopping between them. It costs ya some phone calls and a little more foot work but can save a considerable amount of money. A one phone call does it all deal sure has it's conveniences but can come at a hefty price. I have done a little preliminary scouting of prices. The price is consistent with what I am seeing elsewhere. The building with one 10x10 roll up door, two entry doors and 4 windows is going to be $11,600. I don't know how much money there is to be saved there. The building dealer has an assembly and concrete contractor they recommend. That contractor charges $5.50 per square foot for complete concrete work, from final site leveling, to forming to pouring and finishing. He charges $3.50/ SF of enclosed space, $2.25/ SF for unenclosed for building assembly and $200 per opening in labor. So that's $6600 in the slab and $5225 in building labor. He is booked out about 2 months, so it appears there is appreciable demand at those prices.
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Doors.....one walk thru provided in my package Bought two OH Martin insulated doors locally Windows.......Milgard same as what I used in house in 2012 Concrete......6 bag mix......also have approx 325 sq ft parking slab outside Wiring......armored wiring eliminates the need for conduit ![[Linked Image from images.homedepot-static.com]](https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/c9917d21-4a71-4b10-998a-c5340691c247/svn/southwire-armored-cables-68580055-64_1000.jpg)
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