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One thing to remember is that the 44 mag is a whole different animal in a carbine than it is in a revolver in which it is most familiar to most hunters. For example, average, white box Win 240-gr loads that leave my Smith 329 4” at 1200 fps exit my Marlin 94 at 1750 fps, a whole 500+ fps increase.
44 Mag Buffalo Bore Deer Grenades do even better at 1950 fps. They are loaded hotter, as they say, ~ 1500 fps from a revolver. And that’s not to mention other BB or Grizzly ammo loads, not to mention hand-loads if your carbine shoots them well. And we make a great distinction between a180 30-06 and that from a 300 Win Mag, a difference of maybe ~ 200 fps +/-.
So, yeah, for a woods’ deer cartridge, and paying attention to your bullet, the 44 mag out of any carbine, is really a very good choice and not at all a barely sufficient one assuming correct placement per usual. Compare for instance to the new Win 350 Legend load which gives a 150/180-gr bullet 2300/2100 +/- fps. And it was created primarily for deer/hogs. It’s basically just 357 Mag “Long”. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Thanks for the real world numbers, I've been meaning to shoot mine over a chrono but haven't gotten around to it yet. I was assuming a 400-500 fps increase.
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Love my Browning B92 .44 Mag. A .44 Mag carbine will take down any animal in NA, just not at the ranges some others will.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Finally got to try out my Ruger 77/44 yesterday. Shot this buck at 30 yards with a federal 240 grain JHP. He was slightly quartered away and I put the shot just behind the shoulder taking out the top of the heart and breaking the off side shoulder. The deer reared up on his hind legs and jumped straight up before taking off. He went about 25 yards before he started plowing snow, about 35 yards total. As far as I can tell the bullet didn't exit but I haven't skinned him out yet, hoping to find the the slug when I do.
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Winchester white box 240gr. JSP will ruin any deer’s day out of a rifle, 100 yards and under. They usually pass through on a lung shot and expand very well.
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I was grown and married before I got to hunt anything other than squirrel or rabbit. After borrowing this and that, my husband decided I needed a rifle that fit me, and that I would be happy with. Down to the pawnshop. I looked at this and that, and then pronounced, I like that one, there, with the gold trigger and the golden deer engraved on the trigger guard. Yes, a monster was born. I still have that Browning 92 44 mag from 37 years ago, and it still kills everything DRT within the ranges of the Arkansas piney woods. I have other rifles now, both from husband, and from an inheritance, and my own purchases, and one that was one from a lottery. The little 44 is still a joy to carry and shoot.
I ride mules, hunt every chance I can, and even take my husband with me!
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Had a Marlin .44 mag. It shot the Hornady factory stuff under 2" at 100 w a low power scope. No deer to shoot that yr. Did kill one w Norma factory ammo in a Ruger fingergroove. D was 65 yards. DRT Trigger sucks, front bead is big (peep sighted). It's a 75 yard and in rig. Cool little rifle. My dad won't let me drop a Leupold 1-4X on it Have killed a few w .44 mag wheelguns, farthest 150 yards. Went a ways. Like a big fat pencil poked a hole through him. Won't do that again. Maybe w rifle, 150. Handguns is 100 and in for me.
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We have a 44 mag H&R Handi Rifle. It is really my wife's gun, but I start all my kids out with it. We like it because it is simple for a new shooter to use, its ambidextrous (Wife and #1 son are left eye dominant), and the recoil and noise are tolerable. Wife's buck, Hornady 225g FTX, H110. 30 yards quartering to. Found the bullet under the hide after penetrating diagonally. The deer dropped at the shot. Wife's buck, 240g (I think) factory load. I don't remember the brand, but it was solid copper and the recovered bullet looked like an advertisement. Quartering to at 30 yards. I found the bullet in a hind quarter, I think. The deer wiggled in place for a few seconds, then fell. #1 Son's first deer, a button buck. Walking right at him at 10 yards. The deer fell at the shot. Hornady 225 FTX and H110. I think recovered this bullet, too. Pictured with all of my kids. #2 son's first deer, a very small doe. Same Hornady 225 FTX and H110 load, same blind, same presentation as his big brother the year prior. 5 yard shot on a trotting deer into the center of the chest. We recovered the bullet under the skin between her hind legs. The deer ran 20 yards. We all love shooting this Handi Rifle. Recoil is not bad with hot loads, and very light with light cast lead practice loads. The Best part, to me, is the lack of noise, which I think helps new shooters even more than the low recoil. Two of us shoot lefty, so I switch the hammer spur as needed.
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We have a 44 mag H&R Handi Rifle. It is really my wife's gun, but I start all my kids out with it. We like it because it is simple for a new shooter to use, its ambidextrous (Wife and #1 son are left eye dominant), and the recoil and noise are tolerable. Wife's buck, Hornady 225g FTX, H110. 30 yards quartering to. Found the bullet under the hide after penetrating diagonally. The deer dropped at the shot. Wife's buck, 240g (I think) factory load. I don't remember the brand, but it was solid copper and the recovered bullet looked like an advertisement. Quartering to at 30 yards. I found the bullet in a hind quarter, I think. The deer wiggled in place for a few seconds, then fell. #1 Son's first deer, a button buck. Walking right at him at 10 yards. The deer fell at the shot. Hornady 225 FTX and H110. I think recovered this bullet, too. Pictured with all of my kids. #2 son's first deer, a very small doe. Same Hornady 225 FTX and H110 load, same blind, same presentation as his big brother the year prior. 5 yard shot on a trotting deer into the center of the chest. We recovered the bullet under the skin between her hind legs. The deer ran 20 yards. We all love shooting this Handi Rifle. Recoil is not bad with hot loads, and very light with light cast lead practice loads. The Best part, to me, is the lack of noise, which I think helps new shooters even more than the low recoil. Two of us shoot lefty, so I switch the hammer spur as needed. Nice!
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You can kill elephants with a 44 Mag in a handgun, but in a rifle it's only good for woodchucks...
'If you say the parent you were most afraid when you were a kid was your dad, you grew up in the city.'
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THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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