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Seems like the last few mass shootings ( excluding the cops in Miami) have involved legally purchased firearms.
So if a foreign national from a Muslim country can pass the background check and buy a Glock, what use is more background checks.
And what exactly do they look for in the background of a person who's not a citizen. Of course he's not going to have a criminal background.
I THINK the FBI is trying to blow past the fact that THEY do the background checks.


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It would help you if they prosecuted those from whom kids get guns to take to school. It would cut down on tragic school shootings.

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Not mine but it's true so, I will repeat it. "I have yet to see one gun law that has prevented a criminial from obtaining a gun illegally.

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Not mine but it's true so, I will repeat it. "I have yet to see one gun law that has prevented a criminial from obtaining a gun illegally.


Very, very true.


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The ultimate goal is a system where than can justify registration so they know who and where.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
The ultimate goal is a system where than can justify registration so they know who and where.



Nah.

That's just a stepping stone.

Their ultimate goal is to take them away.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by 12344mag
The ultimate goal is a system where than can justify registration so they know who and where.



Nah.

That's just a stepping stone.

Their ultimate goal is to take them away.

Correct !!!! You are Sir !

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Originally Posted by ringworm
Seems like the last few mass shootings ( excluding the cops in Miami) have involved legally purchased firearms.
So if a foreign national from a Muslim country can pass the background check and buy a Glock, what use is more background checks.
And what exactly do they look for in the background of a person who's not a citizen. Of course he's not going to have a criminal background.
I THINK the FBI is trying to blow past the fact that THEY do the background checks.

I've not seen anything reporting where he got his gun.
Without a "green card", a foreigner can't buy one from a dealer and would have never been subjected to any checks at all.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/firearms.pdf

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Watching NBC nightly news last night, they reported that he got the gun legally at a gunshop through a loophole that allowed him to purchase the gun by showing a hunting license. Dont know if this is more MSM bullchit or if such loophole actually exists.


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Originally Posted by jnyork
Watching NBC nightly news last night, they reported that he got the gun legally at a gunshop through a loophole that allowed him to purchase the gun by showing a hunting license. Dont know if this is more MSM bullchit or if such loophole actually exists.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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The ultimate goal is a system where than can justify registration so they know who and where.



Nah.

That's just a stepping stone.

Their ultimate goal is to take them away.


PREZACTLY!!!


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I have never seen these "loop holes" at any gunshow down here. Every time me and my buddy go to a show they have an area set up for purchases. I have done it as well as my buddy. we also see many others getting a background check before purchasing a firearm. I'm lost as to where this loophole is. Maybe its a regional thing.

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I think Florida allows h you to bypass waiting period with hunting license or concealed permit.

Would still have to be called in to the FBI.


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Maybe he got it from some raghead buddy already here who legally purchased it to begin with.

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
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Watching NBC nightly news last night, they reported that he got the gun legally at a gunshop through a loophole that allowed him to purchase the gun by showing a hunting license. Dont know if this is more MSM bullchit or if such loophole actually exists.


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Nope. From ATF Form 4473:
Question 18.c. Exceptions to the Nonimmigrant Alien Prohibition and Acceptable Documentation: An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is not prohibited from purchasing, receiving, or possessing a firearm if the alien: (1) is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued by the Federal Government, a State or local government, or an Indian tribe federally recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is valid and unexpired...

Now keep in mind that in order to get a hunting license, you have to take Hunter's Education, which involves some time. So you can't just walk off the plane with a tourist visa and get a gun.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
It would help you if they prosecuted those from whom kids get guns to take to school. It would cut down on tragic school shootings.
Sandy Hook - how do they prosecute a dead woman? He son murdered her to steal her guns.


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I have a hunting license why cant i bypass the forms?

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Now keep in mind that in order to get a hunting license, you have to take Hunter's Education, which involves some time.


Not true in many states. Often required for kids, but adults are exempt in many instances.

Also, there are sanctioned online hunter ed courses.

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Now keep in mind that in order to get a hunting license, you have to take Hunter's Education, which involves some time.


Not true in many states. Often required for kids, but adults are exempt in many instances.

Also, there are not sanctioned online hunter ed courses.


Not true.
TX has online Hunter Safety courses sanctioned and put on by the State.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education


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Another instance where a non citizen has more rights/freedom than a citizen in this Country. What a surprise. Like Bristoe says, we're living in "clown world".

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