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Yeah I thought the President was the only one who could put the ARNG in Federal service.

Or better yet, Federalize the ARNG so the Gov can't do squat.

Come on down to the AR forum. Lots of helpful members down there happy to answer questions and help you make a decision.

You are correct.

The Governor can call them out for state purposes, but if we need these assets for federal purposes, they must be nationalize by president, but with the approval of the state governor.

"...but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard..."

Hmm. Nationalize at the state level. Weird.

OTOH, mobilizing the state militia against the citizens is EXACTLY what the 2nd was written to protect against. Calling for military action versus citizens usually results in a regime change.

this, know a lot of pa guardsmsns and they all own ar's, you think there going to give them up, yeah right

At least this might get the attention of the Supreme Court. Perhaps they would like to take up the banning of Constitutionally protected weapons before it comes to blood shed.

It seems the legislatures live in a glass house.. they are surrounded by people telling them what they are doing is right. Remember the Colorado representative telling legislature in Denver that the sheriff of the County she lived in supported red flag law. She goes home for a town hall meeting and the sheriff was their and told her I never told you I supported red flag laws matter of he didn't support it at all. That still did stop her from voting for the red flag law.. Point being these libs could see the polls, see these 75 counties as 2d amendment sanctuary counties. They still don't give chit.. another case in point look at the dems in Congress and the impeachment.. no facts they were told they had no evidence still didn't stop them.

You Sure?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/304

Each person enlisting in the National Guard shall sign an enlistment contract and subscribe to the following oath:

“I do hereby acknowledge to have voluntarily enlisted this __ day of ____, 19_, in the ______ National Guard of the State of ______ for a period of __ year(s) under the conditions prescribed by law, unless sooner discharged by proper authority.

“I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.”

The oath may be taken before any officer of the National Guard of the State or Territory, or of Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia, as the case may be, or before any other person authorized by the law of the jurisdiction concerned to administer oaths of enlistment in the National Guard.

(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 602; Pub. L. 87–751, § 2, Oct. 5, 1962, 76 Stat. 748; Pub. L. 100–456, div. A, title XII, § 1234(b)(1), Sept. 29, 1988, 102 Stat. 2059.

Yeah a lot of folks here don't realize the guard swears an oath to the state as well..

“ true faith and allegiance to THEM...”

Constitution inclusive.


Meaning the 14 amendment is in effect. Meaning no state (VA) can deprive someone of their rights as citizens of the USA (2nd amendment) without due process. These “bans” have to be voluntary else it’s unconstitutional.

And when the two conflict (as they never should, but might) which do you think they'll follow? The deviant governor who wants them to attack their own families and neighbors, or the overriding Constitution of the US?

just wonder how many police, state police, or guardsman are willing to give up there guns, have a friend that's a captain in the NY state police that is allow to own a ar15 but he needed a department letter to get it, the day he retires and if he still owns the said ar15 he becomes a class 4 felon in NY. all the ar15 that the guardsman, police, or state police in VA dint have to have a department letter allowing them to have them as state of VA didn't already have a band on ar15 like NY did.

The version you posted is an old version missing a word before the word "orders".

That word is "lawful".

In China, they activate units from other provinces of other ethnicities.

I don't think the governor of Virginia call call up troops from New York and California. Besides, I doubt there are very many who volunteered for service in Nancy's and Nadlers districts.

They want to talk about enforcing gun legislation . How about the possibility of local prosecutors swearing out warrants for them for treason and violation of the constitution .
I don’t know how all this works , but for too long they have gotten away with violating our bill of rights for our so called safety .
They are concerned about our safety ?
They want to stop the blood shed ?
But yet they want to send police and troops in to enforce unconstitutional laws ?
Another thing to keep in mind , we need to let the sheriffs know if Norrham sends people after sherries or anyone of authority who has our back , they need to know we will have theirs .
Hotdam these dick heads anyway ! I was supposed to retire in 9 months and they are fugging that all up .
Kenneth

Most will do what they are told to do.

We'll see, but I strongly doubt it.

I would assume the police and other people on the inside of the system (judges, politicians, etc) are very quietly planning to keep their personal weapons and not turn them in. Those laws won't be enforced against them, so long as they are quiet and don't flaunt it.

When was the last time you heard of a cop getting a traffic ticket? Different rules for different people.