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Originally Posted by donsm70
To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.

That's incorrect. Fine for a private individual to ship a long gun USPS.

Here's the best solution in my opinion: https://www.cameronpackaging.com/gun_boxes_custom_fit.html#StandardCustomRifle

Next to that, a cheap hard case in the box it came in.

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I’ve been in a few hubs and local stations for UPS and FedEx. Everyone who ships anything should have the opportunity to watch the process at least once. Then maybe people would understand why your crap or heirloom china looks like it fell from a two story building and was hit by a dump truck before skipping across a river and bouncing off a ripper on a D9 Cat. Two words.....strapping tape. And lots of it.

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Originally Posted by Islanderflyer
Your local gun shop is also a good place to get boxes. Usually they are overrun by them.

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This always works for me. And don’t skimp on the wide strapping tape!


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My local FedEx drop service (e.g. pack-n-ship) is now requiring that I demonstrate to them the rifle is not loaded and there is no ammo in the box. It's a royal PITA. I have to do all the bubble wrapping, boxing and taping in the store after their inspection. When I asked about it, they said it was a recent directive from FedEx. But I've found FedEx still to be the least expensive option. Insurance through the USPS can often cost more than the shipping itself.

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Originally Posted by donsm70
To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.

It is perfectly OK for a non-FFL to ship a long gun USPS. However a non-FFL may not ship a hand gun by USPS.


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Originally Posted by mrchongo
[quote=donsm70]To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.


Incorrect . Perfectly legal for an non ffl to ship to an ffl in another state.

Just use lots of bubble wrap and padding when you box up a rifle.

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Originally Posted by cjkostic
I also buy boxes from Uline. I save pieces of 3/8"-1/2" OSB and 1/4" plywood and whatever else is available and construct wooden boxes that fit perfectly inside the Uline boxes. I also save foam packing material and bubble-wrap. I either wrap in the saved materials or place gun in a saved soft gun case and put inside the wooden box and then inside the cardboard. I have never had a single issue with a shipment and have been told my shipping boxes could be dragged behind the UPS truck without damaging the contents. Some extra effort, but well worth avoiding any issues. When I have enough materials, I make up a bunch of boxes ahead of time.


This, in spades! A wood 1x4 is just the right size for the sides of a gun box, add hard board on the top and bottom and screw it together, then I build a heavy cardboard box around that and use hot glue and heavy commercial staples to seal it up. Most people don't have the type of staple gun I use so you need to use strapping tape instead. It makes for a heavy poatage charge but it's worth it and I think could survive most of what the shipping monkeys could throw at it.

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Originally Posted by JimHnSTL
You also might want to break the gun down when shipping, it’s easier to find a box that will fit it. Just wrap all the parts well.


I do this for all my bolt action rifle shipments. Hacksaw off the barrel and lay it next to the stock in a paper sack and close it all with a little bit of scotch tape. wink wink

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Originally Posted by sako706
Walmart has a wonderful hard case for $10 that is squared off and easy to fold heavy cardboard around for extra protection. Put packing material around the gun inside the hard case so it doesn't move around when you jerk on the closed case. I learned the hard way that a gun will go right through the end of those cases when some gorilla throws it into a truck.

I see one for about $15 online but not sure if it’s the same one. Do you have a link to the $10 one? Appreciate it.

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Last rifle I shipped, slid the barrel into a length of foam pool noodle, wrapped the whole rifle in bubble wrap, into the cheap hard case, which I secured with lots of plastic zip ties, then into a cardboard box closed up with heavy-duty packing tape. Must have been a real project for the FFL holder to open!


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Originally Posted by TnBigBore
Originally Posted by mrchongo
[quote=donsm70]To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.


Incorrect . Perfectly legal for an non ffl to ship to an ffl in another state.

Just use lots of bubble wrap and padding when you box up a rifle.


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Originally Posted by donsm70
Originally Posted by TnBigBore
Originally Posted by mrchongo
[quote=donsm70]To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.


Incorrect . Perfectly legal for an non ffl to ship to an ffl in another state.

Just use lots of bubble wrap and padding when you box up a rifle.


Thanks for setting me straight. I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by boatboy
Originally Posted by donsm70
Originally Posted by TnBigBore
Originally Posted by mrchongo
[quote=donsm70]To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.


Incorrect . Perfectly legal for an non ffl to ship to an ffl in another state.

Just use lots of bubble wrap and padding when you box up a rifle.


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Originally Posted by donsm70
Originally Posted by TnBigBore
Originally Posted by mrchongo
[quote=donsm70]To my knowledge, it is not legal for an individual to ship a rifle through the USPS. It has to go through a FFL, with paperwork to another FFL, to be legal through the mail.


Incorrect . Perfectly legal for an non ffl to ship to an ffl in another state.

Just use lots of bubble wrap and padding when you box up a rifle.


Thanks for setting me straight. I appreciate it.
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Looking back my response appears to be a bit terse. Thank you for the courteous response.


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Just shipped one Friday went down to local gun store got a factory box and over box. Keep the package as small as possible to reduce shipping costs. $57 USPS with $1200 insurance AK to WA . You cant aford to use UPS here in Alaska.


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Originally Posted by Whatchaketchemon
Go buy a cheapo hard case and ship it in that. Wrap the case in shipping paper.


I use wire ties, to make sure someone can't just open the snaps. Use plenty, don't clip them till you get to the post office. Sometimes they want them clipped, sometimes they don't. Let them decide what they want.


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Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by Whatchaketchemon
Go buy a cheapo hard case and ship it in that. Wrap the case in shipping paper.


I use wire ties, to make sure someone can't just open the snaps. Use plenty, don't clip them till you get to the post office. Sometimes they want them clipped, sometimes they don't. Let them decide what they want.

Why does the post office know what’s in the box?

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Originally Posted by kk alaska
Just shipped one Friday went down to local gun store got a factory box and over box. Keep the package as small as possible to reduce shipping costs. $57 USPS with $1200 insurance AK to WA . You cant aford to use UPS here in Alaska.

One to the midwest recently was almost identical in cost.
After a recent goat rope with usps and a damage claim, I’m really starting to question whether the insurance is worth it.

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I either pack in a cheap hardcase and then a box or 2 heavy cardboard boxes.

The key I think to my run of no problems shipping is to use "floral" boxes. Roses and flowers are shipped internationally in cardboard boxes.....hint they are heavy duty! Cut them to length to fit a hard case but pack the hard case in the box so it can NOT shift around. One time I shipped a FAL in which the UPPER is considered the firearm to the FFL and shipped the lower/mags/accessories in a separate box to the buyer. He sent me a email saying it had fooled his wife. smile I always check the rates, but usually USPS is cheaper.

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I've shipped several using two USPS triangular boxes. One box with the barreled action goes to the FFl and the other with the stock goes directly to the buyer.

And neither looks like it might be a firearm.

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