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So I'm looking at Proof for my next barrel, and I'm contemplating a 6mm Creedmoor. There are only two options I'm interested in and that's the 16.5" or 22" Sendero in the 16.5" and Sendero Light in the 22". I'd really love to get an 18-20" barrel but it isn't offered, the reason is I'm wanting to use either barrel with a suppressor (Omega 300). I'm waiting on a reply from Silencer Co to see if I can use the 6mm CM in a barrel as short as 16.5". Main use will be as a deer, pronghorn, and varmints at medium to short ranges as well as shooting steel.
What's your thoughts on a 16.5" 6mm CM? I'm also not 100% sold on going with Proof barrel, but I've been wanting to try one.
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So I'm looking at Proof for my next barrel, and I'm contemplating a 6mm Creedmoor. There are only two options I'm interested in and that's the 16.5" or 22" Sendero in the 16.5" and Sendero Light in the 22". I'd really love to get an 18-20" barrel but it isn't offered, the reason is I'm wanting to use either barrel with a suppressor (Omega 300). I'm waiting on a reply from Silencer Co to see if I can use the 6mm CM in a barrel as short as 16.5". Main use will be as a deer, pronghorn, and varmints at medium to short ranges as well as shooting steel.
What's your thoughts on a 16.5" 6mm CM? I'm also not 100% sold on going with Proof barrel, but I've been wanting to try one. I just had a 6mm Creedmoor built with a Sendero Lite barrel. I'll have to check but I think its 22".
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If you really want a 16.5” barrel the 6cm would be a waste you would be better off with a 6BR with that length barrel.
Also with a 16.5” barrel why the extra cost?? Of carbon fiber?? Just flute it
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Carbon fiber is what I want because I get a Military discount on two barrels a year. I'm going with the CM because I want the availability of factory ammunition. The CM has tons more factory options than the BR. The main reason I'm considering the 16.5" barrel is that my suppressor adds around 7" to the barrel, and 23.5" barrel inside the hunting blind sounds a lot less unwieldy than a 29" barrel. I figure there are specialty pistols shooting this cartridge successfully in sub 16" barrels. Plus I read this article and they weren't getting horrible velocity out of a 17" barrel. 6mm CM by the inch.
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I just had a 6mm Creedmoor built with a Sendero Lite barrel. I'll have to check but I think its 22". They only do the Sendero Lite in the 22" blank according to the web site. I can get a Carbon 6 barrel in a FWT 18" long, but the Proof is still cheaper with my discount.
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I'm a huge fan of a shorty... I have no carbon fiber experience yet but I wouldn't hesitate...
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Carbon Fiber is an easy skip for me. Saw two more being pulled off yesterday to be shipped back to manufactures to be replaced after the first of the year.
A 16-17” 6 CM wouldn’t bother me a bit. I had a 20” Tikka and it easily ran the 105-108s around 3025-3030 suppressed.
Still outruns my 6BRs with 26” barrels.....empirical results and all.
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Go for it. I've got a 16.5" Christensen Carbon Wrapped barrel chambered in 6.5 CM. That length along with a 7" Thunder Beast Can makes an overall length of rifle manageable.
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You may want to check out barrels from Carbon Six.They'll cut it any length you want from 16" on up. They do prefits and are very accurate (from my sample of one). They also offer a military discount of 10% if you ask.
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You may want to check out barrels from Carbon Six.They'll cut it any length you want from 16" on up. They do prefits and are very accurate (from my sample of one). They also offer a military discount of 10% if you ask. Even at 10% discount from Carbon 6, I'm getting the Proof enough cheaper to make me consider it.
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A barrel that short looses most of the advantages of a carbon wrapped barrel. The weight savings over a fluted or skinnier barrel are practically nil. It would look cool though if that's your style. With the can then the short barrel sounds like a good option but I would go 18" in case I shot it with out the can.
Velocity loss shouldn't be that bad maybe 100 - 200 fps. Hopefully the can takes care of muzzle blast some, most do.
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Carbon Fiber is an easy skip for me. Saw two more being pulled off yesterday to be shipped back to manufactures to be replaced after the first of the year.
A 16-17” 6 CM wouldn’t bother me a bit. I had a 20” Tikka and it easily ran the 105-108s around 3025-3030 suppressed.
Still outruns my 6BRs with 26” barrels.....empirical results and all. What seems to be the issue josh?
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Carbon Fiber is an easy skip for me. Saw two more being pulled off yesterday to be shipped back to manufactures to be replaced after the first of the year.
A 16-17” 6 CM wouldn’t bother me a bit. I had a 20” Tikka and it easily ran the 105-108s around 3025-3030 suppressed.
Still outruns my 6BRs with 26” barrels.....empirical results and all. What seems to be the issue josh? Inconsistent stress relief in the cores and heat retention of the carbon fiber.
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Ping pong balls for the win.
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Carbon Fiber is an easy skip for me. Saw two more being pulled off yesterday to be shipped back to manufactures to be replaced after the first of the year.
A 16-17” 6 CM wouldn’t bother me a bit. I had a 20” Tikka and it easily ran the 105-108s around 3025-3030 suppressed.
Still outruns my 6BRs with 26” barrels.....empirical results and all. I returned a new 6.5 1:8 CF barrel for accuracy reasons... No hassle replacement barrel from Proof Research. Haven’t tried out the new pipe for improvement. My other CF barrel has been great. 😎
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I guess I'm too lazy to search....but do any PRS competitors use carbon wrapped barrels?? Seems like that would be a true test.
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And to the OP.....I'd agree with an 18" barrel instead of 16.5. Still plenty manageable with a can. I've got a couple of 18" Fieldcrafts - 6.5 CM and a 6 CM - and they are a joy to shoot with a can.
ETA: I see that's not an option for you. 16.5" it is.
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Carbon fiber is what I want because I get a Military discount on two barrels a year. I'm going with the CM because I want the availability of factory ammunition. The CM has tons more factory options than the BR. The main reason I'm considering the 16.5" barrel is that my suppressor adds around 7" to the barrel, and 23.5" barrel inside the hunting blind sounds a lot less unwieldy than a 29" barrel. I figure there are specialty pistols shooting this cartridge successfully in sub 16" barrels. Plus I read this article and they weren't getting horrible velocity out of a 17" barrel. 6mm CM by the inch.Military discount? Where do get this info? I've googled and can't find anything concrete and since they don't sell direct how do you get the military discount?
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I've used a few Proof barrels, including a 22" Sendero Light in 6.5 CM, and they have all shot exceptionally well.
For the record, I'm getting 2854 fps with an 18-inch Fieldcraft (Omega 300 mounted) with the Precision Hunter 6mm Creedmoor load; 2955 with the 21-inch version.
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