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Puked a SWFA at the range today. Pretty anticlimactic...1x4 in a SSALT on a .223 AR. Puked after about 50 rounds. Reticle went blurry, Glass got blurry- target and reticle couldn’t be sharp at the same time. Better at 1x, couldn’t see the reticle at 4x.
Sent em an email, and I’m sure they’ll do right.
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The way I hear it, you'll get a 6x or 10x as a replacement.
The 1-4's don't have a great track record.
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Wish I could settle for junk. I’d have lots more cash in the coffers. 👍
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Subscribe to Cumminscowboys youtube channel Fred, so he can line you out on all the schit you need.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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As Hig stated, it doesn't have a good track record compared to the rest of the line. I have no idea what the sales numbers or profit margins are, but I wish SWFA would improve the robustness of the scope. Or, just discontinue it.
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Subscribe to Cumminscowboys youtube channel Fred, so he can line you out on all the schit you need.
I can’t afford the C clamps
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But I have SWFAs that I will sell. And I promise not to creep any play grounds. 😂
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As Hig stated, it doesn't have a good track record compared to the rest of the line. I have no idea what the sales numbers or profit margins are, but I wish SWFA would improve the robustness of the scope. Or, just discontinue it.
I can’t speak for the HD Swfa line as I haven’t owned them but the rest is a case of you get what you pay for. 👎🏾
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How old are your SWFA's Fred?
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8 years to present. The classics suck.
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Bought an ultra light on the sale it’s nice but I have it on a 10-22 and should have went with the rim fire ultra light. The one I have is not correct for its use. Didn’t intended for it to be a rim fire scope but didn’t like it on a 7-08 so it landed on a beyer barreled 10-22. Not cussing it yet but I hate the classics the glass suck azz
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I get a pretty good chuckle with the “SWFAs suck” crowd. define “suck”. Keep in mind.... it’s $300...
I have more than a few, and while I understand the glass isn’t the best, I’d take mediocre glass over unreliable function 10/10.
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I have yet to see a reticle I like more on a sub $3,000 scope.
And the glass is very usable imho.
Not 6x Leupold great, but pretty close.
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An SWFA chitting the bed? Say it ain’t so.....
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I get a pretty good chuckle with the “SWFAs suck” crowd. define “suck”. Keep in mind.... it’s $300...
I have more than a few, and while I understand the glass isn’t the best, I’d take mediocre glass over unreliable function 10/10. Guess hunting vs looking off ones back deck are different and the classics suck azz I will happily pay 1500+ to scope killing rigs. But if ones experience is play grounds, C clamps and back yards! Bye all means SS away. The 300 dollar shït sack is still a sack of shït. LOL I get a kick out of guys talk like they love 300$ shït scopes, then draw a tag after waiting ten years! those guys never show up with a SS scope. But if a 10-22 or over the counter spike deer hunt is the task, SS is fine (I’m a big fan of gophers guns with cheap scopes) how ever I’m not broke enough to use junk or recommend it to others when big game is on the menu.
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I get a pretty good chuckle with the “SWFAs suck” crowd. define “suck”. Keep in mind.... it’s $300...
I have more than a few, and while I understand the glass isn’t the best, I’d take mediocre glass over unreliable function 10/10. Don’t forget it’s your thread bitching not mine. 😎 I just agreed with you. And the SWFA guys will 100% take care of you those POS scopes probably OEM at 85$ so if they replace it twice they still make money.
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An SWFA chitting the bed? Say it ain’t so..... 10/10 LOL. Guys here! Build a 2500$+ rifle and azz pucker while buying glass. TFF. 300$ look the fûck out it sucks but it’s 300$ Worth of suck. Enjoy.
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If I recall those 1-4 were made in the Philippines and had a bad track record for failing that’s why they discontinued them.. I have one on my service rifle, so far it’s holding up. But heard the glass will actually fall out and other failures.. For guys shooting service rifle I heard the hi-lux 1-4 are performing very well for shooters at Camp Perry, but at the end of the day one will probably be better served buying a Nightforce or March scope for service rifle and be done with it..
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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My favorite swfa is the 3-9. I like the glass better than the 6x or 10x. That being said I just sent one back this fall because withers reticle centered it only had about 2 mil left adjustment and 12 mil right. It took about a month and they replaced it.
They asked how I knew it was the scope and not my rifle or mounts being off. I told them i held a mirror to the front to center the reticle. The new one is good.
I'm not sure what a decent sub $500 score is these days. I got rid of most leupold 6x42 and 3.5-10 scopes i had 15-20 years ago. I had decent luck with first gen weaver grand slams i replaced the leupold with for a 5-10 year spell but I think some erector springs lost some tension so a few of those went back to weaver.
The last 10 years I've bought several SS but i really wish the fixed had better glass and the windage knobs weren't so huge. Plus my easy focus rings always seem to autofocus themselves way out. Nothing tape doesn't fix but...
Too bad swfa couldn't do a gen 2 and update some things. If the fixed had the 3-9 glass with smaller knobs and indented/clicking ez focus I'd buy a bunch more. They could do a fixed 8 while they're at it. It just costs too much to do a prototype. I know because I looked into it for a while.
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