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Leave it to the higher up muckety mucks of our state wildlife agency to screw something else up. Like the state even had the authority to try to sell those antlers exclusively to Bass Pro in the first place. Yet, the landowner has to bid against a major corporation in a closed auction just to get the mount of a deer that had been poached off his family's property?!?! https://www.cjonline.com/news/20200...ophy-antlers-for-16001-at-closed-auction
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Wasn't it the state's deer when the poacher shot it?
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No shooting the kings deer w/o permission.
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The Cabinet secretary said proceeds from the sale would be deposited in the Operation Game Thief account, which provides rewards to people providing information to authorities leading to conviction of poachers. The secretary said consideration was given to burning the antlers, but the decision was made to generate needed funding for the anti-poaching program.
Nedeau, who previously won an $8,000 court judgment from the poacher, said he didn’t want to discuss the transaction until he was in possession of the antlers.
“No comment,” he said. Nedeau is the landowner.
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The state owns the wildlife, not the landowner. If it's illegally taken, it's still property of the people of the state. What's his phuqq is schit out of luck.
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Kent told state wildlife officials he was driving to get firewood on Nov. 11, 2011, when he saw the buck near the intersection of 133rd Street and Wanamaker Road, a rural area south of Topeka. He fired two shots from a 9mm Glock. The animal went down 50 yards from his vehicle. Kent ran to the buck, decapitated it with a knife, wrapped the head in a blanket and drove off. Why would any true hunter abandon all that venison and just take the head unless the kill was hinkey? This story stinks to high heaven, and from what I read the landowner doesn't have any consideration in a court of law. He didn't own that big buck.
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Kent told state wildlife officials he was driving to get firewood on Nov. 11, 2011, when he saw the buck near the intersection of 133rd Street and Wanamaker Road, a rural area south of Topeka. He fired two shots from a 9mm Glock. The animal went down 50 yards from his vehicle. Kent ran to the buck, decapitated it with a knife, wrapped the head in a blanket and drove off. Why would any true hunter do that unless the kill was hinkey? This story stinks, and from what I read the landowner doesn't have any recourse. He didn't own that big buck. Your question answers itself.
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Yeah, it does, ducksanddogs.
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The Cabinet secretary said proceeds from the sale would be deposited in the Operation Game Thief account, which provides rewards to people providing information to authorities leading to conviction of poachers. The secretary said consideration was given to burning the antlers, but the decision was made to generate needed funding for the anti-poaching program.
Nedeau, who previously won an $8,000 court judgment from the poacher, said he didn’t want to discuss the transaction until he was in possession of the antlers.
“No comment,” he said. Nedeau is the landowner. Noper. His mom was the landowner.
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Wasn't it the state's deer when the poacher shot it? Not quite. It was the publics. The state is entrusted with the management.
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The State owns the deer unless you hit it with your truck and ask them to pay for the damages from “their” deer.
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The State owns the deer unless you hit it with your truck and ask them to pay for the damages from “their” deer. ☺😊😀😁😂
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Wasn't it the state's deer when the poacher shot it? Not quite. It was the publics. The state is entrusted with the management. Pardon me I was under the impression that the state was the people and the government was entrusted by the people to run it.
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Wasn't it the state's deer when the poacher shot it? Not quite. It was the publics. The state is entrusted with the management. Pardon me I was under the impression that the state was the people and the government was entrusted by the people to run it. I thought the same too.
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Sounds fair. Just wanted to make clear the wildlife belongs to you and I, the people, and not some state agency.
Some folks seem to have a notion that the State owns wildlife like they own vehicles.
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if you live in Kansas you owned part of the 16,000 they got for it. call and ask for your cut.
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I have never completely understood why the animals belong to the state, yet as a landowner, I have to put up with any damage that they do........destruction of crops, property, and domestic animals. I am expected to let them live on my land, and pretty much do as they please, being able to take action only in cases of extreme circumstances.
That has always been a pet peeve of mine.
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I thought US law was based on Old English Common Law? Since the time of William and Mary—under English Law—wildlife occupies a unique position—it is wild and free and as such owes allegiance to no King, Crown nor Country. A Dead animal is different creature—by law it belongs to the land owner.
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So it sounds as though Bass Pro has some pull in the Kansas State Gubment.
And probably not just Kansas?
On a different flavor:
It really doesn't matter to me, it's his money, but I can't figure why this Nedeau fellow would be willing to drop 16k on a set of horns he didn't kill?
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It really doesn't matter to me, it's his money, but I can't figure why this Nedeau fellow would be willing to drop 16k on a set of horns he didn't kill? I'll agree. My guess is that he may have the idea that he can sell them later for more money.
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