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Comes to mind, Ned Buntline, and his Buntline specials. To make life imitate art, he had some made, and took them out west, and gave them to his heroes.

The ones that did not take them to the blacksmith to be sawn down, just let them lay on a shelf.

That is the story I read years ago.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Comes to mind, Ned Buntline, and his Buntline specials. To make life imitate art, he had some made, and took them out west, and gave them to his heroes.

The ones that did not take them to the blacksmith to be sawn down, just let them lay on a shelf.

That is the story I read years ago.


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Originally Posted by MM879
I've noticed the further west you go the more story telling is revered. In the east we call it lying.

This is a mildly offensive statement to a fourth generation Westerner.
As far as Joseph's speech is concerned, we can either accept the report of the Army officer who was there or accept the detractions of academics who were not. GD

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As to tall tales in the west, the same is true with Northwoods lumberjacks.


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Good grief- - - - -pretty soon we're going to start picking Star Wars and Back To The Future apart for "technical inaccuracies"! A creative writing course I took in college back in the 1960's included something about the reader engaging in "the willing suspension of reality" while reading for entertainment.
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Stick around Hotrod, according to some, the Bible is all wrong.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Stick around Hotrod, according to some, the Bible is all wrong.




It must be according to those churches who are accepting queers as pastors.

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The story telling tradition is an intergral part of any culture. Unfortunately, it is not what it used to be. How many of you sit down with your grandchildren and share a story from your past with them??

Perhaps a hunt or a journey? Or perhaps about your grandparents and their life?

These are the things that give the past immortality. And it gives your grandkids a story to pass down. Even if all they remember is “Gramps used to tell us good stories!”


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Originally Posted by greydog
Originally Posted by MM879
I've noticed the further west you go the more story telling is revered. In the east we call it lying.

This is a mildly offensive statement to a fourth generation Westerner.
As far as Joseph's speech is concerned, we can either accept the report of the Army officer who was there or accept the detractions of academics who were not. GD
Depends on the officer. There were 1000 soldiers there. None reported any speech and that includes several generals. Lt. Charles Woods was an aid de camp for General Howard, the commanding officer. He sold stories to Harpers Magazine and apparently had a reputation for a lack of honesty in his writing. The fact is, nobody knows for sure if Joseph really made the speech or not.

Woods later became a liberal lawyer and author. He championed liberal causes like labor unions and baby killer Margaret Sanger as she originated Planned Parenthood. I don't put any trust in the truth from any liberal.


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Remember the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," and that famous line..............."We have a saying in the West, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

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Remember the movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," and that famous line..............."We have a saying in the West, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend."


I was thinking of just that line reading this thread! LOL!


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And yet, given his reputation for oratory, it is at least as likely that he did make the speech, as reported, as it is that he did not, as was not reported. This seems to be a bit of revisionism, to me. GD

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Originally Posted by MM879
I've noticed the further west you go the more story telling is revered. In the east we call it lying.


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No sure where to document this, but I read that an editor of L’Amour said that he wrote nearly all of his books in one draft and would not go back and edit them for consistency. L'Amour figured that his readers didn't care whether the bad guy was shot two or three times, (such as in the start of Radigan, for example.)

Re terrain and travel: L'Amour nails it most of the time, way better than most authors, because he walked or rode over much of the ground he wrote about. It shows. However, when he was wrong or had not covered the ground, it really shows. The book about trail driving cattle from the plains to the British Columbia gold fields is utterly ridiculous in time and terrain, leaving out whole mountain ranges to cross.

One of our family inside jokes when one of us gets a compliment is to say, "It is nothing." Everybody in the family knows it comes from Last of the Breed, and is the hero's comment about carrying something like a 150 lb. pack over mountains (I am not going to try to look up the exact weight mentioned in the book.)


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Originally Posted by Oldman3
Originally Posted by MM879
I've noticed the further west you go the more story telling is revered. In the east we call it lying.


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Oldman3 is a paramount story teller! One of the best I know. He has 1000’s!

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
I never was a fan of either L’Amour or Grey.

Not that they were bad writers or anything, just fiction was really never my gig.


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the eastern elitist/snobs always rejected the story's told by those that went west and saw the grandeur. I had a Uncle that was showing us his wood lot . scrawny slender popple or some such.
he said "look at these, ever see such big trees"?. My dad replied " Lester, out west where we live we have trees so tall the moon has to go around them". Later in his life Lester got off his little eastern farm and came out to California. we took him to see the Big trees in Yosemite. he stood there looking up for a while then walked away muttering " I don't believe it! has to be Hollywood props"
western storytellers don't lie, they embroider.


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