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Awhile back I was more than happy to run across a bag of 100 rounds I had put up in brand new Norma brass for the 7x57, loads are topped off with the old style 175gr Hornady round nose bullets, note in the bag reads H-4350 and 2408 fps, I bet they will work very well on most, if not all stateside game inside 300 yards.  Interesting how this cartridge isn't subject to your "less is never more" line of thinking.  No Professor, note in the bag read 1998, I loaded those spec for a '96 Mauser at my 'smiths waging finger of CAUTION, my other 7x57 fires 175's at 2700 fps, the 7x57's saving grace is it doesn't come with a brokeback mountain fanboy cheer squad, iirc, the only ones that ever cheered for the 7x57 were the ones getting the chit shot out of themselves with 'em in a war way back when ; ] So it isn't ballistics, it's ill informed boosters that bug you.
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Awhile back I was more than happy to run across a bag of 100 rounds I had put up in brand new Norma brass for the 7x57, loads are topped off with the old style 175gr Hornady round nose bullets, note in the bag reads H-4350 and 2408 fps, I bet they will work very well on most, if not all stateside game inside 300 yards. Interesting how this cartridge isn't subject to your "less is never more" line of thinking. No Professor, note in the bag read 1998, I loaded those spec for a '96 Mauser at my 'smiths waging finger of CAUTION, my other 7x57 fires 175's at 2700 fps, the 7x57's saving grace is it doesn't come with a brokeback mountain fanboy cheer squad, iirc, the only ones that ever cheered for the 7x57 were the ones getting the chit shot out of themselves with 'em in a war way back when ; ] So it isn't ballistics, it's ill informed boosters that bug you. No again Dr. Calculus , it's the whole circus that enshrines the 6.5 creedmoor is was talking about, when less is being celebrated as more.
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Awhile back I was more than happy to run across a bag of 100 rounds I had put up in brand new Norma brass for the 7x57, loads are topped off with the old style 175gr Hornady round nose bullets, note in the bag reads H-4350 and 2408 fps, I bet they will work very well on most, if not all stateside game inside 300 yards. Interesting how this cartridge isn't subject to your "less is never more" line of thinking. No Professor, note in the bag read 1998, I loaded those spec for a '96 Mauser at my 'smiths waging finger of CAUTION, my other 7x57 fires 175's at 2700 fps, the 7x57's saving grace is it doesn't come with a brokeback mountain fanboy cheer squad, iirc, the only ones that ever cheered for the 7x57 were the ones getting the chit shot out of themselves with 'em in a war way back when ; ] So it isn't ballistics, it's ill informed boosters that bug you. No again Dr. Calculus , it's the whole circus that enshrines the 6.5 creedmoor is was talking about, when less is being celebrated as more. Chicks are funny
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So it isn't ballistics, it's ill informed boosters that bug you.
No again Dr. Calculus , it's the whole circus that enshrines the 6.5 creedmoor is was talking about, when less is being celebrated as more. YEE HAAAW ! You are singing my song. Jerry
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GD glad you can't hear it JWall, last time I sang, I saw dead coyotes climbing up out of the ground to howl! ; ]
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SargeMO I assume as a loony you sold or traded the Roller. Be Well, Rustyzipper. By the time I finished that stack of 175s it was piercing primers and puffing a little gas back at you occasionally. I sold it to a friend with full disclosure and the assurance he'd make it a wall hanger. About five years later I saw it for sale at an Independence MO gun shop. I explained it's problems to the owner, who didn't seem much interested. Oh well...
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Well heavies might be a necessity for my new 7x57. I tried 140 partitions today at 3.000” OAL. Not to good. Loaded them out to SAAMI max 3.065, much better. I was surprised to see the bolt close on them at 3.100” when trying to determine max OAL. Looks like I’m going to have to make use of that long magazine.
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Well heavies might be a necessity for my new 7x57. I tried 140 partitions today at 3.000” OAL. Not to good. Loaded them out to SAAMI max 3.065, much better. I was surprised to see the bolt close on them at 3.100” when trying to determine max OAL. Looks like I’m going to have to make use of that long magazine. Ruger?
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M70 Super Grade Lightweight, from limited run in 2013-2014 I believe.
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My Featherweight is the one I’m having the hardest time finding a load for. It doesn’t like 140s either.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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My groups shrunk from 3” to 1.25-1.5” by adjusting the OAL from 3.000” to 3.050-3.065”. Just loaded up some Partition 160’s @ 3.085 (again bolt just closes at 3.100”) with H4350. Plenty of room left in the magazine. I wish the Hornady 154 RN was still available. Might try the IL flat based next.
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My Featherweight likes the 140's and 160's. I load the 160 grain Nosler Partition in it now.
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What OAL are your 160 Partition loads?
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Throats are very different in this caliber, some are short, some are a country mile long!
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You're welcome.
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My Featherweight is the one I’m having the hardest time finding a load for. It doesn’t like 140s either. This is what has worked for me. Caution, load is max in my rifle. 140 gr. Ballistic Tip 47.0 gr. W760 Winchester brass and WLR primer OAL 3.1295" Velocity 2800 FPS 150 gr. Nosler Partition Caution, load is max in my rifle. 48.5 gr. Rl 17 Winchester brass and WLR primer Velocity 2847 FPS. Note some of the velocity in the latest Speer and Nosler manuals leads me to believe the loads are OK. Loads were shot in my M70 Featherweight in 90 degree weather. Load were one inch or less, mostly less. Paul B.
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My Featherweight is the one I’m having the hardest time finding a load for. It doesn’t like 140s either. 150-gr. Nosler Partition Caution, load is max in my rifle. 48.5 gr. Rl 17 Winchester brass and WLR primer Velocity 2847 FPS. Note some of the velocity in the latest Speer and Nosler manuals leads me to believe the loads are OK. Loads were shot in my M70 Featherweight in 90 degree weather. Load were one inch or less, mostly less. Paul B. This is about where I want to be. I'm soon going to take a little different tack with this rifle. My plan is to use IMR4350 (just because I have quite a bit on hand) and run a Satterlee ladder test to find the velocity node, then start adjusting seating depth. I'll start with the NPT, but if that doesn't work I'll run through different 150gr-class bullets until I find something that suits my liking. Maybe being more scientific (i.e., Satterlee's method) will help. From what I understand, it'll sure save on time and components.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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My Featherweight is the one I’m having the hardest time finding a load for. It doesn’t like 140s either. Thats not the IS is it? Cause if it is, it sure don't like light bullets..or 160s either...150s yes, 175s definitely....the others...not so much.
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