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I do not have a savage 99. you may need some to keep your life-time card ? i went to 1/2 dozen 99`s just in case and extra Ruger #1`s too
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
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SS336, Here's a detail of the figure in my Pachmayr Springfield:
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Pete53,
I used to be a real 99 loony, even owned an 1895 in .30-30, along with take-downs in .22 HP, .250-3000, .300 and .303. But eventually realized the only one I wanted to hunt with was the mid-1950s 99F in .358 Winchester I inherited from one of my hunting mentors, so sold the rest....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Thanks JB for taking the time to post that information and pictures of your Pachmayr Springfield. Truly a great rifle, ivory spacers,wow! That checkering is really special, never seen anything like it. Great rifle, thanks again.
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My pleasure. Glad you like it!
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The 50CB wildcat I created was based on 50-56 brass. It was to make a legal big game rifle with the sound of BB gun. To do this it has fast powder, a large bore diameter, long barrel, and small compressed powder charge for high peak pressure and maximum expansion ratio. I made my own dies. I worked up to the threshold of supersonic gas escapement. I had a problem of gas leaking around the bullet. I then used two presses in series to swage a bullet into the cartridge in shape that would seal the chamber. I worked up to the threshold of supersonic escapement gas [when it sounds like a firearm, not a BB gun]. I added an unrifled tube to the muzzle with 0.500" inside diameter. This extension allowed for more gas expansion and higher quiet velocities. 50CB tests today: 6-26-2012 1) 0.9 gr Red Dot 186 gr .500" round soft lead ball squished 184 fps, sounds like a pellet gun 2) 0.5 gr Red Dot, 184 fps, chrono did not trip, sounded like a BB gun, bullet stuck near muzzle. 3) 0.9 gr Red Dot, WLP, 244 fps, Sounds like a pellet gun, 4) 1.2 gr Red Dot WLP, 244 fps, chono did not tip, sounds like a BB gun, bullet stuck near end of tube 5) 1.2 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax on bullet and in bore 343 fps, sounds like a very loud pellet gun. Bullet has been hitting a tree in the bushes, and that is where all that noise is coming from 6) 1.5 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax on bullet, shoot at air 495 fps, sounds like a pellet gun 7) 2.0 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax on bullet, shoot at air 606 fps, sounds like a pellet gun 8) 2.3 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax, air 627 fps, sounds like a pellet gun, gun came unhinged, bent extender tube 9) 2.8 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax, air, extra powder taking up space causing bullet to be over squished 716 fps, sounded like a snappy pellet gun 10) 2.8 gr Red Dot, WLP, wax, air, adjusted doubled ended double press die 798 fps, sounds like a loud pellet gun
This is 264 foot pounds. Considerably more than the other pellet guns in this house. It is amazing what you can do with a 62" barrel and compressed pistol powder.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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How does it group at 50? Have you tried sizing the ball and paper patching?
Did that with a .44 mag some years ago, worked quite well. 2 ball loads were the schizzle.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Dan, I don't remember doing anything. I probably never shot a target. Just over a chrono and listened, If it is not in a range report on my computer, it is lost.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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Well, then you are DEFINITELY loony!
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Dan, I don't remember doing anything. I probably never shot a target. Just over a chrono and listened, If it is not in a range report on my computer, it is lost. Well, you're still a high ranking official in the Loony Kingdom. That double press thing was awesome!
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Did I hear "Springfield Sporter"? This one was made at the Springfield Armory itself. Called the "NRA Sporter" but known officially as "Rifle, U.S. Caliber .30, Model 1903, Sporting Type, star gauged, fitted with Lyman 48 receiver sight". Only 4946 were built between 1924 and 1938. (Sales officially ended in 1932 but a few extra were built over the next 6 years, mainly as trophy rifles for dignitaries and winners of major shooting events.) Built to fulfill a demand for a quality sporting rifle, of which there were few such factory bolt guns in 1924, it was sold to civilians via the NRA and to commissioned military officers. It was discontinued when the Ordnance Department took flak for competing with commercial makers (after the advent of the Winchester 54 and Remington 30). A similar scenario today would be if the government sold match grade AR's, by mail with no background check, to NRA members only.... There were claims at the time that the Sporters could outshoot the National Match '03's, due to its less restrictive stock even though they both used star gauged barrels. I don't know about that, but this one will deliver accuracy that hovers close to MOA. And it ain't for sale!
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Damn! I had a chance to buy one of those a couple-three years ago, but hesitated to do some research on whether it might be a good fake.
Turned out it wasn't, but somebody else grabbed it....
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I bought the rifle for what it is, not the story behind it, but the backstory is pretty cool. It purportedly was purchased by an Alaskan who used it on his regular forays to Kodiak Island in the 30's-40's. In more recent years it passed through the hands of Michael Petrov, noted collector/researcher of pre-war custom sporting rifles. It's serial number got a hit in the Springfield Research Service list of verifiable Sporters, National Match, and other specialty rifles.
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I think the .257 Roberts, 6.5x55 and 7x57 should be included in any Looney's battery and probably a 6.5 Creedmoor to keep up with modern times. And maybe a .250 Savage and a couple of more Euro cartridges like 7x64, 6.5x57 etc. And rifle wise, there should be at least one single shot rifle included.
Yep. You ain't a loony without a 6.5X55 Jerry Qualifies on both counts. 6.5x55.
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SWEET # 1
I’ve had 2-3 #1s but never could my hands on that model.
Jerry
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Any one of Winchester Models 53, 55, or 65.
Or maybe a Remington Model 14 1/2.
0.224" - Marlin 336 in 219 Zipper 0.243" - Winchester Lee Sporter in 6mm Lee Navy 0.257" - Marlin 1893 in 25-36 Marlin 0.264" - 1st Model Newton in 256 Newton
EDIT: While I once owned a Winchester Lee Sporter in 6mm Lee Navy, I never had occasion to shoot it and I'm not sure that the bore diameter was 0.242", 0.243", or 0.244".
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So now I’m looking for a nice hunk of walnut for my Springfield, a 45 colt Indian rifle of some flavor, and a #1 or Dakota 10. All of which I wanted before but the urge passed like a fart in a windstorm. Damn this place.
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I've known a loony or two, who fortunately don't own any firearms.
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
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I've known a loony or two, who fortunately don't own any firearms. Women??????
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