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You up early Leopard Man ; ]

But on the subject of the OP....

I find the optics snobs ( gurus?) to be somewhat entertaining....seems like there is an inversely proportional ratio to the amount they spend on scopes and the amount of time they spend actually hunting.

Yeah...can't sleep. Wife says its the product of a troubled mind.

Wife is always right...

LOL, I didn't sleep worth a crap last night either, high winds, heavy rain, thunder and blue fire, lovely.

Same here...Keep getting weather alerts on my phone of high winds, more rain and flooding waking me up...Well No Shît! It’s been like this for 2 frick’n days....Couldja lay off the fûck’n alerts! 🖕🏾😎

Yup, or little Wives sleep soundly knowing they have watchmen up who are going to die 20 fuggin years early from no sleep looking out after them while they slumber without a care, EVERY FUGGIN night!.

This.....
rookie

You met my wife, I see.....I can hear here snoring, I’m meant breathing softly. Lucky Girl!

G5....You have a good morning in The Ok.
😎

LOL, mine purrs too ; ] the song Silent Lucidity has been my life for 30 damn years with this chick, wouldn't change a thing.

Have a great day too Buddy.

Geez thunder and lightning? Sounds rough.. I'll trade you for the 1/2" of freezing rain were getting here with 8" of snow on top. I probably wont be looking at scopes much longer here.

No need, I’ll thank you right now. I appreciate the advice and your concern. I’ll look into your first couple of suggestions. As far as the stretchy bungies, those lasted for about 5 seconds after mounting the new scope and snapping that pic. They have been replaced with flip-ups to avoid any tangling. What a relief!

Now I just need to sell all my scopes and replace them with Leups, and see if my wife has any netted leggings to use as paint stencils...

I had the same dilemma as you last year. On the recommendation of GregW who has the same hunting situation as me I bought the SWFA 3-15 mil/mil. I had never dialed before and never used a mil scope before. All I can say is it works. Yes it could be lighter and yes that honking windage knob sticks out a long way but it works. Also I picked mine up as a demo and it was a buy. Check the demo list on their site.

Am I understanding this correctly? Are your scope reviews and recommendations based on ordering a scope, testing in a fixture, then returning them for a refund? Or do you keep some and put them through lots of field use? I’m not trying to attack you either, but you gotta admit that isn't quite in the same realm of experience compared to people that have actually used multiple examples. Or guys like Formidilosus that uses them and trains people to use them for a living. I agree with Jordan.

Mine has the Mcwhorter. Best hold over ret IMHO

I'd like one that is a little more in tune with a 6.5.. having holdover marks for 216, 280, 332, etc.. is a little goofy.

I sent Meopta an email to see what load they calibrated that 6.5 reticle to. Hopefully I get an answer.

30oz is going to bring my rifle up to 9lbs tho..

I am just getting started doing scope reviews, scientifically. its funny how people are even questioning that now. I think its pretty darn scientific if I can tell you the exact percentage of tracking error a scope has, within 1% its way more scientific than shooting the scope mounted on a rifle that I guy thinks is a half MOA gun "if they do their part" because it shot 1 1/2MOA group. When the rest of the groups always seem to have a flyer or 2 but if you take those flyers out by golee its another 1/2 MOA gun. As for the C clamps that is also funny when I can hang off the fixture with my entire weight of 225 pounds, AND the scope seems to magically return to zero, that is how you know the scope tracks true. YES I returned the 3-15 SWFA, why because the tracking wasn't up to my standards. you have no idea if yours does or not.

what are the factors that prevent accurate scope assessment by shooting it?
-rifle accuracy.
-the shooter holds the gun slightly different on each shot and this prevents being able to see this because even if the gun was 100% accurate and fired bullets in the same hole, POI would still be different because the shooter
-field and range conditions, wind etc.

are you saying static testing a scope has no value? seriously? why don't you watch how (youtube) nightforce tests their scopes. hint, its not shooting them!!!! OMG a truth dart. lets mock the only guy on this forum that has publicly shown and actually invented his own way not from the group and pack that you simply continue to repeat their drivell. I am not the pack, I am the opposite, I always question conventional wisdom. There are litterly tons of people who test scopes shooting them, in fact everyone does it that way. I do it differently at least initially. why go to the trouble of wasting ammo and time if you can't see what a scope is doing, are the clicks matching? does the reticle match the markings? do I see reticle shift as the scope is dialed? does the amount dialed match what it should be? my methods identify if these things are true.

you only test one thing by shooting a scope, durability. a durable scope that has adjustments that don't match, how good is that? just because I come on here and refuse to spout off about 100k and even 1 million rounds fired with a scope, then show 6.5 creed tikkas with factory barrels on them somehow means I never shoot anything.

keep parroting what the pack says, you will never know the difference. ignorance is bliss. carry on and enjoy your weekend, seriously.

how do you like the sling on that gun? I love those for certain rigs, although not the lightest option. I wish the guy offered more colors and asked him about it and he says he would but doesn't think it makes sense money wise.

I've used it on a couple of my heavier rigs like my varmint rifle and it works well. Doesn't slip and has enough give without being bouncy.