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Originally Posted by oklahunter
This forum is a strange mix. There’s often good, objective information and analysis together with subjective beliefs/ opinions bordering on superstition.
I’m willing to cut the enthusiasts a break.
I do enjoy the banter and discussions. Not so much the name calling and making criticism or disagreements personal.

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Originally Posted by Musicianized
Of scope shopping.

Maybe my problem is reading hundreds upon hundreds of reviews, forums, videos..

I think I find a scope that's going to be great, then the next guy says it's [bleep].

I just want a hunting/target scope somewhere around 3x15 that has good glass and tracks good. I started with a Burris Veracity, but they are a little heavy and have mixed reviews.. then I really wanted Leupold Vx3i but apparently they track like [bleep]... every damn scope I find is apparently [bleep] except for a $2000 Nightforce.. and I'm on a $800 budget.

I don't see any sense in buying an $800 scope if they are as [bleep] and unreliable as a $200 scope.

I'm about to throw iron sights on my new rifle and a magnifying glass.

WIth glass, to a certain extent you get that you pay for. That said, glass enthusiasts can be pretty opinionated, so take reviews with a grain of salt. If you decided you’d never buy a brand of optics that didn’t have a bad rebore you’d almost be out of choices, except maybe fit the very highest end.

All scopes have engineering compromises, so part of finding the right scope for the job is picking a model that shines where it needs to be good.

I don’t mix my hunting and target scopes. For hunting I want lighter weights, good low light performance, simple reticles and capped turrets.

For target scopes I want very clear glass with target turrets, good tracking, complex reticles. I don’t care much about weight, and would prioritize resolution over contrast.

Be prepared to make some trade offs or pay more than $800.

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I was going to recommend Schmidt and Bender scopes, but then you mentioned your budget.

I think there are many good scopes in your price range, but like many things, whether you will like a particular scope is subjective. Try a bunch.

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Originally Posted by Musicianized
Of scope shopping.

Maybe my problem is reading hundreds upon hundreds of reviews, forums, videos..

I think I find a scope that's going to be great, then the next guy says it's [bleep].

I just want a hunting/target scope somewhere around 3x15 that has good glass and tracks good. I started with a Burris Veracity, but they are a little heavy and have mixed reviews.. then I really wanted Leupold Vx3i but apparently they track like [bleep]... every damn scope I find is apparently [bleep] except for a $2000 Nightforce.. and I'm on a $800 budget.

I don't see any sense in buying an $800 scope if they are as [bleep] and unreliable as a $200 scope.

I'm about to throw iron sights on my new rifle and a magnifying glass.

WIth glass, to a certain extent you get that you pay for. That said, glass enthusiasts can be pretty opinionated, so take reviews with a grain of salt. If you decided you’d never buy a brand of optics that didn’t have a bad rebore you’d almost be out of choices, except maybe fit the very highest end.

All scopes have engineering compromises, so part of finding the right scope for the job is picking a model that shines where it needs to be good.

I don’t mix my hunting and target scopes. For hunting I want lighter weights, good low light performance, simple reticles and capped turrets.

For target scopes I want very clear glass with target turrets, good tracking, complex reticles. I don’t care much about weight, and would prioritize resolution over contrast.

Be prepared to make some trade offs or pay more than $800.


Very good answer.

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Originally Posted by BillyE
Until I started reading this forum, I knew nobody who dialed for elevation. It’s just not an issue for many of us. I’m sure it depends where you hunt.


Unless one is long range target shooter, dialing for elevation is used mostly hunting varmints where the target can stay still for a relatively long period.

Although I suppose it can be used in other situations. I hunt Wyoming and it’s wide open country. I’ve never dialed for elevation ever. I either get closer or would use a little holdover on 400+ yard shots. But I’ve never killed an animal farther that 325 yards. On second thought, I’d be uncomfortable over 400 yards.

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I might not ever dial either but I want a scope that will.


You can lead a horse...
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Originally Posted by Musicianized
I might not ever dial either but I want a scope that will.


Buy an SWFA fixed power and give it a try. There’s a fair amount that goes into consistent tracking to make a scope accurate for dialing.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Oh, I know. I continue to respond to him and rebut his statements for the benefit of those who may otherwise believe him.


I just sit off in a dark corner soaking it all in. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Tannhauser
... glass enthusiasts can be pretty opinionated...


WHAT!?


Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.

Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)

Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.
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