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What do folks think about the Speer .338 250 gr Grand Slam? Seems to get good reviews on MidwayUSA. Speer Grand Slam .338 250 gr Bullets - MidwayUSA
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I know that my wife’s rifle is sub-moa out to at least 300 yards with 225 TTSX’s.....around 2”, 3 shot groups on our 300 yard, backyard range! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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One review on Midway explains the Sierra. "Excellent for thin skinned to medium game". There's the problem.
I'd trust a 185 grain Barnes way more than that 225
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One review on Midway explains the Sierra. "Excellent for thin skinned to medium game". There's the problem.
I'd trust a 185 grain Barnes way more than that 225 Yup
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Of all the bullets I’ve tested, the only one to truly fail in my opinion is the .338 215 Sierra Gameking. Shot a couple with a 338-06 into magazines and none opened at all. .338 hole through a couple feet of magazines and far enough into ground I never found them.
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Another thought in regards to the lost brown bear. A shoulder shot on a bear may not lead to chest cavity penetration, especially if the bear is quartering away, even slightly. Their anatomy is shaped differently than deer, more like a stocky human on all fours. With a soft bullet on a large bear, the second shot may not have achieved much penetration.
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Seems to me I've heard someone on the forum opine "Bullets are more important than headstamps."
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I would use a Swift A-Frame in 225gr or 250gr weight. Accuracy is second to tough bullet construction when hunting game that can hurt you. "Accuracy is second to bullet construction"? We will have to agree to disagree... You are asking for MORE trouble. I've read the whole thread. You have been given GOOD advice. I have never recovered a Sierra bullet that had NOT separated. NEVER. I've used MANY test mediums.(media) Good Luck in your search..... IF you are searching. Jerry
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They’re bears, shoot em, if they make it out of sight, go shoot another... hint
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They’re bears, shoot em, if they make it out of sight, go shoot another... hint Umm no Jud, bears are game animals they deserve respect. I like having them around
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I would use a Swift A-Frame in 225gr or 250gr weight. Accuracy is second to tough bullet construction when hunting game that can hurt you. "Accuracy is second to bullet construction"? We will have to agree to disagree... How much accuracy do you need for a moose or brown beat at 100yds? I shoot up to 600 yards for caribou. I wouldnt do it if I wasnt 1 moa at that distance. Are you planning on shooting caribou at 600 yds with a 416 Rem? No Ok then, learn how to shoot , use a good bullet and quit whining on the internet..... if you can't do it with a 338 then you can't do it I never whined nor am I a bad shot. I was asking opinions on bigger calibers hollywood.
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Bigger caliber isn't what's needed, better and more robust bullets is.
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They’re bears, shoot em, if they make it out of sight, go shoot another... hint Umm no Jud, bears are game animals they deserve respect. I like having them around That’s fine brother bri... I was raised where they are coyotes, I remember half cab scouts pullin up with right front paws for proof, = $, snares, and double bit axe for a killin weapon... nowadays they seem like a trophy...😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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I do like how (robust) is thrown around nowadays, especially scopes!! 😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Hey Jud, why are bears considered a pest in W. Washington?
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Go to a Partition bullet or a tipped Bear Claw Both excellent bullets. Dial back accuracy if needed for bullet performance.
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Hey Jud, why are bears considered a pest in W. Washington? Not just here, but they girdle trees like a bastard... hence the hound hunt, feeding, and snare program approved every spring... most just lay em low and keep on keepin on..
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I do like how (robust) is thrown around nowadays, especially scopes!! 😂😂 You could club a bear to death with an SWFA or NightForce if you run out of boolits. A Leupold would just crumple up and piss him off. Just make sure the rings are Quick Detach and your pants aren't around your ankles or you in deep doo-doo ...
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I do like how (robust) is thrown around nowadays, especially scopes!! 😂😂 You could club a bear to death with an SWFA or NightForce if you run out of boolits. A Leupold would just crumple up and piss him off. Just make sure the rings are Quick Detach and your pants aren't around your ankles or you in deep doo-doo ... 🤣🤣🤣
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Hey Jud, why are bears considered a pest in W. Washington? Not just here, but they girdle trees like a bastard... hence the hound hunt, feeding, and snare program approved every spring... most just lay em low and keep on keepin on.. That's what I thought but wasn't sure. Didn't JJHack contract out killing bears for a timber co.? Not sure I care about Wyerhausers interest over the bears interest......
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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