Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So you don't think God answers prayers?

AS,

You and I have touched base here a little bit, shared our position briefly, talked firearms and cartridges somewhat more than we have our personal perspectives.

On this matter, not that it means much to you, but I tend to agree with you.
"Answers" to my own personal prayers usually result me feeling like I just got the big "GFY."

The believers here must remember the time John the Baptist was in prison. He had some doubts about this Jesus character and asked his buddies to investigate the situation, and the man Jesus. This of course was some time after Jesus had preached out of the Book of Isaiah "The spirit of the Lord is upon me to preach the good news, heal the sick, give the blind sight, make the lame walk, AND set the captives/prisoners free...."

Jesus told John's buddies, "Hey, go tell 'ol Johnny boy that ALL these things are being done, I'm doing it just like I said I would...ummm...however, about this prison situation you find yourself in...well...ahh... ummm...ah well..John you're not going to be one of those prisoners that gets set free. So John, it's probably best if you dont take offense concerning this disappointing news..." (of course I'm paraphrasing here). But that was the deal...no dice.

Then there should be clear evidence to support that proposition, better outcomes for believers, divine intervention, etc.

That's biblically kinda ignorant...he even answered satan's "prayer" to screw with Job.

Best they can do is rely on the power of imagination as to cause and effect through their beliefs involving Bibilcal scripture fables and superstitions that were scribed by self interest driven Hebrew and christian radicals.

Ask christians what God did with the physical flesh
and blood body of Jesus that was alleged to have ascended to heaven. And what possible use or value
such would be in a spiritual realm.

God is described as having a friendly wager with His angel, Satan, giving instructions on how far Satan could go in testing Job's faith, the limits being set by God himself, obeyed by Satan.

Um, this has been fun but exactly which nonbelievers are praying to Him so He as prayers to answer?

Exactly.

Since "prayer" is conversing with God, satan, the "unbeliever" was then praying/conversing to/with God.

And too, many came to jesus as unbelievers, spoke with him, and left as new believers.?
Hint: Many if not most.


But really, I'm more interested in the "Hunting Rifles" and "Free Classifieds" forums than the "How Many Are Dancing On The Head Of A Pin" forums, so I'll leave you fellas to your conversation.

Satan wasn't a nonbeliever. He believed, all right.
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

They're under eternal punishment for their rebellion against God. They know full well who Jesus is and they know what's coming for them. Angels seem to have full access to God, even the fallen ones. In Job, Satan has the ability to approach God directly...for now.

Yes, I know that any unbelievers who want God to make them believers and ask Him into their heart, He will.

Asking for other things, I doubt. He says to believe you will receive. I dont think unbelievers believe when they ask, or else they wouldnt be unbelievers.

One thing I'll have to confess, when I pray, many times, I'll hold up, and include, 'Thy will be done".

I ain't reading all the pages, but I will say this with certainty. God has spoken to me more than once and has also answered my prayers more than once. Thank you Jesus. To God be the glory!

Say what you will, I have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus Christ.

Sakoluvr, I'll say what I like, that is more than great. Praise be to Our Lord.

The role of satan in Judaism is to fulfill gods plan, to do the will of God by playing the adversary. Doing exactly as God orders in the book of Job. Satan just refers to anyone playing the role of adversary. Christianity altered the idea and role of Satan.

It must be miserable to be Antelope Sniper.

Someday he's going to be very, very sick, slowly dying as he gets old. It's going to be absolutely miserable. And he won't have any hope for anything better than trying to put a bullet in his own head. Because his suffering has no value, there's nothing redemptive about it, it's just gazing into the maw of blackness.
He'll look back on his life and realize how senseless it was, just an automaton-like pursuit of temporary pleasure. The bad times will seem simply like failure. They won't have had any value. He might as well sucked on a bottle his entire life.

Nihilism is an ugly thing. Suicide is the Nihilist's only answer to suffering.

Yes. So I’m very careful for what I pray for. Because God "works in mysterious ways".

Bob, that is why I think it is best to ask for His will to be done.

Rock,

Yes that's true.
I was meaning "believer" as one putting his trust in Jesus, and having relationship with him... a belief that is beyond an intellectual belief.

This notion that only that which has been "peer reviewed" is true, or likely to be correct, is illogical, authoritarian nonsense. It utterly begs the salient question.

Hahahaha that literally was pathetic.

Some how now we will be suicidal? Hahahahha you christians are a fugged up breed....