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Thinking about getting a fast twist 22-250. I like the 62 Barnes bullet a lot. The Barnes loading info lists a 53 grain as the heaviest. Does anyone have a powder and load for the 62 Barnes or other bullet for fast twist 22-250’s that you like.
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4064, IMR 4895, 3031, RL 15.....AR Comp...
I run a 1 in 7 twist barrel on one...normally run 73, 75 and 80 grain bullets in that one..
have a box of the 88 grain ELD whatever... but haven't loaded those yet...
rain kinda ruins the enjoyment of going to the range...and this time of year its raining a lot....
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I might be able to email them Barnes boys, see what they have to allow on using that bullet-twist combination.
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R15 pushing 75gr Amaxes to about 3200. Got sub 3” groups at 700 yards with that one. DRT Whitetail at 410 yards too.
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I might be able to email them Barnes boys, see what they have to allow on using that bullet-twist combination. Nosler has 22-250 data for fast twist barrels and heavy bullets: https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/22-250-remington/ There isn't any data there for mono-metal bullets but it should get you started. Hodgdon has load data for the 62 gr Barnes on their website; start here: http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle
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8 twist will stabilize a 70 grain TSX. I could stabilize them in my .223 9 twist with a 26 inch barrel. They will not stabilize in the 20 inch barrel though, I can't quite get enough velocity to turn the RPMs.
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22.5" barreled 8 twist Tikka. Max load of RL17 and 75 amax. Very accurate and 3300 fps.
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I love the 62 grain TTSX out of my 1 in 8 twist 22-250. I use Varget, I'd have to look up the load if you wanted it. With WLR primers and Win brass I get 3500 fps out of my 23" barrel.
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Never used the 62 as the 55 TTSX had the same POI as the 75gr. A-Max to 300yds.
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Thinking about getting a fast twist 22-250. I like the 62 Barnes bullet a lot. The Barnes loading info lists a 53 grain as the heaviest. Does anyone have a powder and load for the 62 Barnes or other bullet for fast twist 22-250’s that you like.
Thanks in advance. Whittaker's Special Run RAR, 1:8 36.0 Varget, CCI 200 primer, 2.435 COAL, 3,411 fps average. If that seems slow, I should note that this rifle has run slower than book velocities with every bullet & powder combo I've tried. Anyway, this load did kill a hog & a jackrabbit, so there's that. I haven't run the 53 TTSX's in this rifle, yet, but I'd have to imagine they'd do well, too. FC
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my tikka shoots nicely with superformance an 60 v max
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Superformance and the 62gr Barnes has worked well on Wyoming antelope. I don't have the load data in hand but it's in the latest Hornady manual. Other powder shot ok but Superformance gave better velocity and accuracy in my RAR from Whittakers.
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Here's an unusual load for a fast twist 22-250. I bought some surplus bullets at Midway, advertised as 80 gr. Well, they weighed 75 gr. and research showed them to be Hornady TAP bullets for their SBR (short barrel rifle) ammo. I haven't killed anything yet. But at .22-250 speeds, think they'd be pretty destructive. I was surprised at how well they shot. Rifle is a Mohawk with Shilen 8 twist barrel. These bullets are not available for reloaders. I have a couple hundred, got a few from a Fire contributor. I know, I know, three shot group.... DF
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mine's an AI version, but I use R26 with great results, accuracy and velocity with 70 RDFs
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Here's an unusual load for a fast twist 22-250. I bought some surplus bullets at Midway, advertised as 80 gr. Well, they weighed 75 gr. and research showed them to be Hornady TAP bullets for their SBR (short barrel rifle) ammo. I haven't killed anything yet. But at .22-250 speeds, think they'd be pretty destructive. I was surprised at how well they shot. Rifle is a Mohawk with Shilen 8 twist barrel. These bullets are not available for reloaders. I have a couple hundred, got a few from a Fire contributor. I know, I know, three shot group.... DF WOW, those bullets look like they would have a B.C. like a bowling ball, .00006 ?????
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mine's an AI version, but I use R26 with great results, accuracy and velocity with 70 RDFs I also have a couple AI versions, never even thought about trying RL26, my go to load for years has been 80gr Berger VLD's with RL19. what kind of velocity are you getting ???
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Here's an unusual load for a fast twist 22-250. I bought some surplus bullets at Midway, advertised as 80 gr. Well, they weighed 75 gr. and research showed them to be Hornady TAP bullets for their SBR (short barrel rifle) ammo. I haven't killed anything yet. But at .22-250 speeds, think they'd be pretty destructive. I was surprised at how well they shot. Rifle is a Mohawk with Shilen 8 twist barrel. These bullets are not available for reloaders. I have a couple hundred, got a few from a Fire contributor. I know, I know, three shot group.... DF WOW, those bullets look like they would have a B.C. like a bowling ball, .00006 ????? They don’t look like sleek LR bullets, do they. You’d think I’d be reporting how they performed on critters. But as a Loony, I’m off on other projects. Need to check out terminal performance, pushing them faster than designed. DF
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WHEN i get my 1-8" twist tikka imma shoot 64 grain nosler solid base bonded or hornady 55 or 60 grain sp for my stunt shootin'. i heard that nosler was gonna start making a 70 grain accubond in .22cal. sure hope they factory load it in 22-250 rem........ Big Ed
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70 gr NAB will be interesting in a fast twist 22-250.
Are you getting decent groups with the 64 BSB?
I even bought factory ammo to see if Nosler can get them shooting better than I can. Haven’t tried them yet.
Terminal performance is reportedly very good. I got some 62 Fed Fusion surplus bullets. They shoot much better groups and terminal performance is pretty close. Accurate bullets are interesting bullets. I’m not a 64 BSB fan.
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Are you getting decent groups with the 64 BSB?
I even bought factory ammo to see if Nosler can get them shooting better than I can. Terminal performance is reportedly very good. I’m not a 64 BSB fan.
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Same here....couldnt get them down to my satisfaction....and inch was a good day with them....I currently use up my remaining supply by shooting light loads to fireform 223AI cases...
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I started and stopped with Reloder 16 and a 75 ELD a few thousandths off the lands. 3300 fps is where I ended up but it also shot really well at speeds down to 3150 fps.
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Hate to hear that, I bought some in hopes of using them on game. I'll try them in my rifles but likely will use them in the same way you have.
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Hate to hear that, I bought some in hopes of using them on game. I'll try them in my rifles but likely will use them in the same way you have. Won't hurt to try...some have had some success with them... Another to try if you feel the need for a relatively heavy bullet is the Speer Gold Dot in a 62 Gr. I havent used any but have had very good luck with 55 gr. Gold Dots, both in accuracy and performance on game.
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Bought some of the 62 grain Gold Dots too. I have a. 8" twist Tikka and a 9" twist Browning that I'll try both in.
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34.2 grains of RL17 with 88 ELD’s @ 3000fps worked well for me. v
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Bought some of the 62 grain Gold Dots too. I have a. 8" twist Tikka and a 9" twist Browning that I'll try both in. I think you might like them. I'm not getting bughole accuracy..but they are well under an inch, and Ive worked up a couple light loads for fur...they go through with minimal damage if you want them to.
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I think they may work well on game for me. I'm not worried about fur damage.
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Hate to hear that, I bought some in hopes of using them on game. I'll try them in my rifles but likely will use them in the same way you have. Won't hurt to try...some have had some success with them... Another to try if you feel the need for a relatively heavy bullet is the Speer Gold Dot in a 62 Gr. I havent used any but have had very good luck with 55 gr. Gold Dots, both in accuracy and performance on game. Speer Gold Dot is the same bullet as the Fed Fusion. I got a thousand Fed Fusion 62's from Rocky Mtn Reloading for a great price. I've loaded a bunch over Pw Pro 2000 in the .223 for hogs. Does good and they are very accurate, more than twice as accurate as the 64 BSB and terminal performance is about as good. BSB would be OK if 1 1/2" groups will work for you. I like sub MOA of the 62 gr. Fed Fusion (Speer Gold Dot). DF
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Hate to hear that, I bought some in hopes of using them on game. I'll try them in my rifles but likely will use them in the same way you have. Won't hurt to try...some have had some success with them... Another to try if you feel the need for a relatively heavy bullet is the Speer Gold Dot in a 62 Gr. I havent used any but have had very good luck with 55 gr. Gold Dots, both in accuracy and performance on game. Speer Gold Dot is the same bullet as the Fed Fusion. I got a thousand Fed Fusion 62's from Rocky Mtn Reloading for a great price. I've loaded a bunch over Pw Pro 2000 in the .223 for hogs. Does good and they are very accurate, more than twice as accurate as the 64 BSB and terminal performance is about as good. BSB would be OK if 1 1/2" groups will work for you. I like sub MOA of the 62 gr. Fed Fusion (Speer Gold Dot). DF Good to know DF...about what I figured...and those 1.5 inch groups is what I was getting out of the 64 BSBs..too..
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Hate to hear that, I bought some in hopes of using them on game. I'll try them in my rifles but likely will use them in the same way you have. Won't hurt to try...some have had some success with them... Another to try if you feel the need for a relatively heavy bullet is the Speer Gold Dot in a 62 Gr. I havent used any but have had very good luck with 55 gr. Gold Dots, both in accuracy and performance on game. Speer Gold Dot is the same bullet as the Fed Fusion. I got a thousand Fed Fusion 62's from Rocky Mtn Reloading for a great price. I've loaded a bunch over Pw Pro 2000 in the .223 for hogs. Does good and they are very accurate, more than twice as accurate as the 64 BSB and terminal performance is about as good. BSB would be OK if 1 1/2" groups will work for you. I like sub MOA of the 62 gr. Fed Fusion (Speer Gold Dot). DF Great information DF, many thanks!
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mine's an AI version, but I use R26 with great results, accuracy and velocity with 70 RDFs I also have a couple AI versions, never even thought about trying RL26, my go to load for years has been 80gr Berger VLD's with RL19. what kind of velocity are you getting ??? Before I got my labradar my chrony showed getting 3400 with 42.4 of RL26 with the 70 RDF. Good accuracy. It seems to work very well in this cartridge with heavy bullets. I worked all the way up to 46 grains where there seemed to be a node at 3685 FPS, but there was slightly stiff bolt lift and that was at 40 degrees F.
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