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You get the illuminated or non?

John

Illuminated

You’re gonna love that scope.

John

I miss the G2 reticle.

Ordered on Saturday, processed Sunday evening, and arrived today (Wednesday). Good service. Thanks, Doug.

I like the FDE more than I thought I would, but don't care too much about the color. I do like the thin center section of the reticle, compared to the illuminated version that I had in the 4.5-18x LRTSi. I sold that scope a few weeks ago, and don't recall how it looked at 12x for direct comparison.

Lack of illumination control is nice, for my needs. I never used the lit reticle on the other scope, and found the dial more annoying than anything.

For precision shooting in good light, I agree. For general hunting, I think the illuminated version is better.

That illuminated is pretty thick

That’s why I like it. You can see the reticle at last legal light without having to turn the illum on.

John

I've seen some pictures of that reticle lit up.. and it looks really fuzzy. Does the light wash out into the glass around it or does it have good contrast? Maybe it was onntoo high of a brightness setting? Or just a camera issue.

An early heads up for the members here. We will be announcing a "While Doug is at SHOT Show" sale on the Bushnell Elite Tactical LRTS 3-12x44 Flat Dark Earth - G3 for only $599.99
Right now you can call in, 516-217-1000, and mention this forum and we will honor the price as we have not officially announced this yet. This sale will run through Sunday 1/26 or until we are sold out

OK. This gives me enough of a reason to replace a couple of SWFA 3-15's (223AI and 308).

Just a heads up. It's been 19 minutes since I mentioned this and 3 scopes have sold already. The price is good till I get back from SHOT or we run out of these scopes and we have fewer than 100 of them

I agree, this is what I was talking about. What is the need for the reticle when you have a scope that dials precisely?

Man, I just ordered one of these last weekend at the old price. Talk about timing.

Other than for measurements when zeroing your scope, I'm not sure. Holdover and windage.. but you can dial that.. using it to calculate distance.. but there's rangefinders for that and more accurate and quicker than I can do the math.

Measuring compensation to get on target I guess.. Some examples of how you guys use this reticle besides for sighting in?

A reticle with angular increments is not commonly used to calculate distance in the field anymore. As you said, LRFs are good enough these days that "milling" the target is only ever necessary if your RF fails, and even then with the coarseness of the increments in most reticles, it's an educated guess once you get past about 400-500 meters, at best.

A graduated reticle is most useful for holding wind and for measuring the angular subtension of your misses (holding the correction with the reticle can be handy, too). It can also be useful for measuring target size. Some examples:

- The wind is rarely a fixed, constant speed and direction, so dialing for windage correction is too slow and inelastic. The reticle can be used to hold off for windage correction with much quicker response to changes in wind speed or direction. Sometimes even mid-trigger pull a change in wind hold is needed if you notice the wind gust or let off, or if the direction changes suddenly.

- Now, let's say you take a shot (and you follow through properly so you stay in the scope and on target after the shot is released), and you see that the shot missed a little low and left. You use your reticle as a ruler to measure the necessary elevation and windage correction to get your next shot on target. You can then either hold the correction entirely with the reticle, or you can dial in the elevation correction and hold the additional windage. You could also dial both and use the same hold as on the previous shot, but this is slower and less practical than the other two methods of correction.

- Let's say you are shooting a target of unknown size. It can be useful to use your reticle to find the size of the target (the target is 0.1 MRAD wide by 0.2 MRAD tall, for example). This is practical when shooting rocks at 1000 meters up on a mountain slope, for example. If you are setting up steel targets and shooting them, then using your reticle to measure the size of the steel is totally unnecessary, but can be of interest.

- Finally, if for whatever reason your LRF is not able to give you a range, you can use the reticle to find the angular size of the target, and then you can use the known linear size of the target to calculate the approximate distance to the target.

If you ever shoot at moving targets, using the reticle to lead a mover is also very useful.

Jordan went over the reticle use deal. And Form has a thread on it. pay attention.....

I got two more last week. And they's a bargain even at full retail..... kwitcherbishin. grin

Repetition aids in learning 😁

But damn. SWFA cut the 3-15's down so low, they may not be worth messing with selling. One of mine is FFP and one is SFP. I may keep the SFP to have in case I need it some time for a backup.