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Up until now I have found it easy enough to drift rear sights with a brass punch without hitting it too terribly hard. Unfortunately I now have a CZ85 and an M&P which refuse to budge. Yes I've checked for and removed the set screw, but no-go unless I pound on them more than I'm comfortable with. Any suggestions on how to move them other than buying a sight-pusher I'll never use again or paying a gunsmith more than that cost?
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I've used the hammer & punch method for decades. Some of the Euro guns can be obstinate. I put the slide in a padded drill press vise and in the worst cases, spray them with nut-buster and play a propane torch over them. Think I ruined one rear sight in 44 years- but they all moved.
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Maybe put some Kroil on it and let it set overnight.
Then put the slide in a padded vise, and use some card stock or similar to pad between the sight and punch.
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M&P's are known to be fitted tight, peened, welded and then staked in place. Well maybe not to that extent, but they are usually very tight. I bought a cheap universal sight pusher after gouging a sight in a Shield. Luckily I was changing them anyway.
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Does it have a right to left or left to right orientation? Just an FYI, I have put a spent .22 rimfire over the end of a steel punch and used that to keep from damaging the sight. The extra surface area can be a good thing too.
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Any suggestions on how to move them other than buying a sight-pusher I'll never use again or paying a gunsmith more than that cost? You'll probably use that sight pusher a lot more than you think. If nothing else, take it to the range and charge people $5 per gun to help them get zeroed. Okie John
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Up until now I have found it easy enough to drift rear sights with a brass punch without hitting it too terribly hard. Unfortunately I now have a CZ85 and an M&P which refuse to budge. Yes I've checked for and removed the set screw, but no-go unless I pound on them more than I'm comfortable with. Any suggestions on how to move them other than buying a sight-pusher I'll never use again or paying a gunsmith more than that cost?
tia Those CZs sometimes have VERY tightly fitted rear sights that take a lot of force to move. When they are that tight, they definitely come out easier in one direction than the other; if you look closely you may be able to tell which end of the sight went in first; push it back out in the reverse direction. When they are that tight, you may just bend/break your sight tool. Mounting the slide very solidly in a good vise and using a flat punch and large hammer is what I prefer.
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Sakoluvr, "I have put a spent .22 rimfire over the end of a steel punch", that's a great idea. Wish I thought it, definitely going to use it . Thanks
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Think those are bad...try and move Kimber sights...they are put in with a hydraulic press... Tried to replace the front sight on a ProCarry and ended up having to send it back to the factory... I have had this one for about 10 years and it has done an excellent job on everything I have tried it on...usually use it a half dozen times a year but a valuable piece of kit... https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...p500-universal-sight-tool-prod17840.aspx
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Maybe put some Kroil on it and let it set overnight.
Then put the slide in a padded vise, and use some card stock or similar to pad between the sight and punch. This is what I had to do to move an immovable front sight on a Winchester 1885. I used Liquid Wrench and let it sit for several hours, that did the trick. Kroil is probably better but any kind of penetrating oil like that will definitely help.
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Thought I'd follow up on this. I (1) soaked the sights in Liquid Wrench for about 5 days, (2) put a .380 case on a steel punch as Sakoluvr suggested and (3) got a bigger hammer. Worked great! The rear sights didn't move easily, but they did move.
Thanks everyone.
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