Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So you don't think God answers prayers?

You really do crack me up man. You have got to be the most miserable being I have ever cross paths with on the net. Literally, 90%+ of your posts are hate filled posts towards another poster, a politician, or a race in general.

Im very serious when I say, I suspect you walked in on your wife riding a black guy or getting spunk spewed on her face while in your own bed... maybe it was your daughter, I am not sure.... but I am sure something happened.

For a man who declares his devotion to Christ, constantly referring to various scriptures, you need to really reflect on life if you truly do seek salvation. I don’t believe, but I very much understand Christian beliefs... Believe or don’t, that is irrelevant in forming a firm opinion your one extremely emotionally challenged being (aka fugged up in the head). You better hope Texas never adopts a red flag law.

Sure it does, never heard of a hung jury?


What are you afraid of, that you can't? Can you prove Aquinas didn't levitate or do you just ass-u-me he didn't, perhaps as a matter of faith?

In the OT, satan is fully under the control of god, the book of Job, etc.

Then why do you reject it?

You're a liar. You vote DNC also.

Jesus drew people to Him. People from all different backgrounds were attracted to Jesus. Do ‘Christians’ nowadays draw people to Jesus...? Does the body of believers nowadays draw people to Jesus...? Do Jesus’ followers nowadays represent Jesus in a way that draws people from the onlooking world to Jesus...? So many of em’ seem to be angry about ‘sinners’ and happy about hell. Sin doesn’t make God angry...sin breaks God’s heart. Sin should break our hearts, because sin breaks people. If God so loved the world that He gave His son for it, then He is ‘for’ the world. That means that He’s against anything that’s not ‘for’ us. God’s against sin because God is ‘for’ us. How many times have we seen ‘Christians’ judge non-Christians for not acting like Christians...? Who would a ‘Christians expect a non-Christian to act like a Christian...? Why would a Christian be critical and berating to a non-Christian for not acting like a Christian...? The Apostle Paul said “what business is it of mine to judge those outside of the church...?” Why would a Christian judge outsiders for not embracing the values of something they’ve never signed up for in the first place...? We’re not supposed to judge outsiders...we’re supposed to love outsiders. Christians often drive others ‘away’ from Jesus. God spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years getting the world ready to send the ‘one person’ into this world that could pay for our sins. And all He requires from us is to acknowledge what He’s done for us...and then just live ‘that’.

Going back to the original post, I don't think this question can be answered.

A sick man gets well after someone prays for him. Is that because of the praying or would he have gotten well anyway?

Another sick man dies afer someone prays for him. Why? God's will?

I tend to feel that it makes no difference. However, here's what i really think: Prayer doesn't cost much and it may not work. But it might work. So if someone believes it works, why not let them?

Antlers, you're right. We all fall short and should do better. I can get by ok with those unfortunate enough to not believe and pray for them, traitors and subversives who support the destruction of our country and constitution our gifters fought and died to give us, not so much.

Speaking of who draws from all corners to him. Trump.

MAGA. GOD bless him.

No, but it is all explainable in observable terms.

Consciousness is a personal quality not provable in anything else. For all I know YOU are merely a biological entity, no self-awarenes necessary.

I understand what you are saying, and I often see critics of Christianity make criticisms along those lines. Oftentimes, what the critics are condemning are defense tactics of Christians - defending their children from what are basically monsters. Take the homosexual lobby for instance - they don't want to be left alone, they want to create more opportunities for self gratification. Fact is, if you are teaching perversion to my kids, I'm coming after you! I don't care if someone is in the Church or not, they are dangerous and need to be neutralized.

There is nothing equivocal in the absolute necessity of faith as the beginning of all genuine knowledge. You yourself are dependent on and exercise "faith" every time you "think". The difference between you and the theists is they are at least intellectually honest about it.

Once again, it takes no faith, only observation to gain knowledge.
I know the sky is blue, I can observe that.
I know that alcohol and tobacco damage the body, I can observe that.

I believe that cessation of brain activity equates to death of the soul. I can not observe that, but have faith it is true.

So, you would have believed there were no organisms that could make to I'll in dirty water before microscopes were invented.

You could have called a witch doctor and drank a concoction of rat penises, bat saliva and toad skins if you got a bad enough fever and been in the crew that said your illness came from someone's curse rather than tained food or water?

A sick man gets well after someone prays for him. Is that because of the praying or would he have gotten well anyway?

Another sick man dies afer someone prays for him. Why? God's will?

I tend to feel that it makes no difference. However, here's what i really think: Prayer doesn't cost much and it may not work. But it might work. So if someone believes it works, why not let them?

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Why not let them? How could anyone possibly stop them? Prayers do not need to be audible to be effective.

I keep it simple, you all know what I say.

LOL...Cite case law where a jury was hung when they couldnt decide if 'God forced' a murderers hand.

is there any case on record where motive for the crime was attributed to a verifiable God?




again cite case law where a jury has genuinely considered the 'viable possibility' as requirement of judicial process law,
that a God may have in fact forced a mans hand.




For people on murder charges that try to deflect reponsibilty for their actions by blaming a God

how woud you go about proving beyond reasonable doubt (in as you say a 'logical manner')
that a real deal God forced the defendants hand?

Hiding behind the claim that 'faith is beyond proof' dont cut it in such matters.

your waffling birdbrain dumb ass would be laughed out of court even all the way
down the steps of the courthouse..only place you can really push your inane crap
is on the irrelevant CF hoping to find acceptance..and i doubt the more rational,
learned, down to earth christians here support your view.

your responses wreak of desperate clutching of straws based on highly subjective belief stances.

i always pray for my family and friends, never felt right asking for myself.

We can read what God says to us, we have to speak to him. Well, He seems to like us speaking to Him, He knows our heart.

we should also note that religion and politics often rub shoulders for mutual gains,
adopting like strategies...ie ": if we repeat the same unsubstantiated nonsense enough times it will make it true"

when you question them, they take the convenient defensive cop out victim status stance ,
that "you are attacking my faith".

No, it is equivocation...our experience of the world and self begins with information acquired from the external world by our senses and brain....which is in turn being tested against the external world as we navigate our way through it. The tree or the wall is there to bar your path regardless of what you believe. If your senses are reliable, you negotiate your way through an environment that does not care about belief or faith.