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No, if I thought it was a POS I would call it that. First off the warranty is 100,000 or 5 years, which ever comes first. I could have said you were FOS, but didn’t do that either.
“100,000 ROUND GUARANTEE -- OR FIVE YEARS. We are so confident in the A5, we are standing behind it with a 100,000 round or five year guarantee that this shotgun will work, come hell or high water.”
Only shoot it 500 times in 5 years? Goodby warranty.
So, the point is few are going to pound 20,000 per year out of the A5. Which means while they will stand behind it, 100,000 is little more than an advertising gimmick that sounds good more than anything else.
SA stands for semi-automatic, and I’ve yet to see any Semi-auto go 100,000 without more than one small part breaking more than once. Usually nothing major on the good ones, for the most part pins, springs, gas mechanisms and such. Parts that are usually easily replaced by the owner. Occurrences that are more conveniently taken care of without the hassle of boxing it up and sending it back, combined with the resulting wait. Who pays the shipping? Browning isn’t famous for quick repair times. Have it happen during hunting season and you won’t see it to finish out the season. Fix it yourself and relative inexpensively most often, and you will.
The warranty is fine, but reality is they know few will be using it.
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I’ll call it that. An overpriced POS.....1600$ and I got 2 lemons back to back.......what’s the chances ?
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and the old ones keep clunking along..........
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Clunking is a very accurate description. For their time they were better than good. Today, the old A5 has been surpassed in many ways.
Even now, I’d take the original SuperX1 over the A5. The Beretta and Benelli has been beating it for maintenance, reliability and fitting accommodation for years. Really it's been decades.
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and the old ones keep clunking along.......... With class...
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No, if I thought it was a POS I would call it that. First off the warranty is 100,000 or 5 years, which ever comes first. I could have said you were FOS, but didn’t do that either.
“100,000 ROUND GUARANTEE -- OR FIVE YEARS. We are so confident in the A5, we are standing behind it with a 100,000 round or five year guarantee that this shotgun will work, come hell or high water.”
Only shoot it 500 times in 5 years? Goodby warranty.
So, the point is few are going to pound 20,000 per year out of the A5. Which means while they will stand behind it, 100,000 is little more than an advertising gimmick that sounds good more than anything else.
SA stands for semi-automatic, and I’ve yet to see any Semi-auto go 100,000 without more than one small part breaking more than once. Usually nothing major on the good ones, for the most part pins, springs, gas mechanisms and such. Parts that are usually easily replaced by the owner. Occurrences that are more conveniently taken care of without the hassle of boxing it up and sending it back, combined with the resulting wait. Who pays the shipping? Browning isn’t famous for quick repair times. Have it happen during hunting season and you won’t see it to finish out the season. Fix it yourself and relative inexpensively most often, and you will.
The warranty is fine, but reality is they know few will be using it. Oh yes, I agree that very very few new A5 shotguns will ever see 100,000 rounds fired so the 5 year warranty is it 👍 ...And I am no gunsmith but it looks to me like all modern inertia guns use basically the same Bruno Cerovali action that Benelli bought back in 1967 so my lowely $595.00 Weatherby Element (Turkish ATA Arms) should run as inertia trouble free as My Benelli SBE 2, M2 and new model A5 just like the guns that shoot thousands of rounds at birds in South America where gas guns cant hang 😁...Hb
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Been considering an A5 just because. Don’t know if that’ll happen as my 65 Auto 5 is a joy to whack Squirrels with. Just can’t leave it at home, ever. If I’m carrying an SA it’ll be either the Auto 5 as first choice & Remington 1100 as backup.
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No, if I thought it was a POS I would call it that. First off the warranty is 100,000 or 5 years, which ever comes first. I could have said you were FOS, but didn’t do that either.
“100,000 ROUND GUARANTEE -- OR FIVE YEARS. We are so confident in the A5, we are standing behind it with a 100,000 round or five year guarantee that this shotgun will work, come hell or high water.”
Only shoot it 500 times in 5 years? Goodby warranty.
So, the point is few are going to pound 20,000 per year out of the A5. Which means while they will stand behind it, 100,000 is little more than an advertising gimmick that sounds good more than anything else.
SA stands for semi-automatic, and I’ve yet to see any Semi-auto go 100,000 without more than one small part breaking more than once. Usually nothing major on the good ones, for the most part pins, springs, gas mechanisms and such. Parts that are usually easily replaced by the owner. Occurrences that are more conveniently taken care of without the hassle of boxing it up and sending it back, combined with the resulting wait. Who pays the shipping? Browning isn’t famous for quick repair times. Have it happen during hunting season and you won’t see it to finish out the season. Fix it yourself and relative inexpensively most often, and you will.
The warranty is fine, but reality is they know few will be using it. Oh yes, I agree that very very few new A5 shotguns will ever see 100,000 rounds fired so the 5 year warranty is it 👍 ...And I am no gunsmith but it looks to me like all modern inertia guns use basically the same Bruno Cerovali action that Benelli bought back in 1967 so my lowely $595.00 Weatherby Element (Turkish ATA Arms) should run as inertia trouble free as My Benelli SBE 2, M2 and new model A5 just like the guns that shoot thousands of rounds at birds in South America where gas guns cant hang 😁...Hb Quite a few Beretta gas guns used in Argentina. Just sayin.
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My new A5 decision making process went kinda like this:
Scrolling through the Browning online catalog and saw one that kind of caught my attention, WOW.........that thing looks kinda racy!
Scrolled down a little further and found out it was a 16 gauge.............awww, I don't want one of those.
Scrolled down a little more...............dumb shotgun only weights 5 3/4 pounds..........maybe I outta think about this.
Beer math took over, a trip to Walmart and several gun shops indicated that yes, they still make shells for these things. Discovered the 1 oz loads in the 16 were cheaper than the high brass 20's. Purple shotgun shells are kinda goofy.
Okay, maybe I need to look at one of these things. Located a gun shop with one in stock and proceeded to said establishment.
Picked the gun up and thought maybe I have been doing things wrong for some time, the gun shop took all my money that day.
Went to the trap range to see if the thing would actually work 100 times in a row. I was the only one on the line and with the voice actuated system, used the speed feed and ran it 4 rounds of 25 non stop and it worked. The barrel was kinda hot when I got done, you couldn't touch it with your hand.
Found this website devoted to 16 gauge shotguns and saw pictures of this guy over there just killin it on wood ducks with the same model I had just bought with some sort of super lethal shotgun shells.
Bought a MEC 600 and components to ensure I didn't run out of shells...........the last time I reloaded shotgun shells was on mom's kitchen table sometime during the 1970's with a Lee Loader.
Loaded a batch and they all went boom, seemed to be a bit more vigorous than the store bought stuff.
Currently thinking about Bismuth next year for this gun and looking upon my 870 Magnum express and 10lb BPS 10 gauge with disdain.
Opening day on squirrels this year resulted in dead stuff. Hunting public land so .22's prohibited.
Went pheasant hunting with friends and laughed at them with their big heavy shotguns.
A5's are light and I am having problems with follow through on my swings on dove.
Currently trying to negotiate with Battue on how to pump him for information on how to hit moving targets with a shotgun.
The end.
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1: You could sit under a tree and cherry pick the incomes. Little fun in that.
2: Find a Skeet field and practice down gun on stations 2-3-4-5-6.
3: Shoot some sporting and pick the stations with just about anything 35yards and under.
4: You tube some videos on shooting pull away. Or with a light gun, move, mount, shoot.
5: If you are close as you said, then come nice weather PM me.
6: Flat after flat of shells opens many doors.
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Purple shotgun shells are kinda goofy.
The end. Not if your favorite color is purple.
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Quite a few Beretta gas guns used in Argentina. Just sayin. [/quote] Your right, they do run some 390's 👍....Hb
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