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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Absolute Morality Exist.


Not Exists.......but Exist.


Not sure what this means.....


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Trying to figure out what he means.



Absolute speeling dose not exits.


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Ontological argument, Argument that proceeds from the idea of God to the reality of God. It was first clearly formulated by St. Anselm in his Proslogion (1077–78); a later famous version is given by René Descartes. Anselm began with the concept of God as that than which nothing greater can be conceived. To think of such a being as existing only in thought and not also in reality involves a contradiction, since a being that lacks real existence is not a being than which none greater can be conceived. A yet greater being would be one with the further attribute of existence. Thus the unsurpassably perfect being must exist; otherwise it would not be unsurpassably perfect. This is among the most discussed and contested arguments in the history of thought.

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For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.


I think a lot more people could believe in a GOD. Not the man made religious "God". But if it gives you comfort that is great.


Religions are man made.


Yes they are! Look how many religion's there are and look at when they were basically accepted as founded. Every person in each of those religions swears it is the only true religion. Believe whatever gives you comfort.


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Ejp. Small minds worry about such things. Faith allows some of us to accept the finality of our short lives and know we are a small cog in the wheel of life. None of us wants to leave early but what if our passing is the catalyst for great works or furthers Gods plan? Faith gives one the strength and wisdom to deal with the fears and realities of our existence, and sometimes we have no more cognizant ability to discern the end result than that moth. Cancer sucks, loss of a loved one hurts. God’s love helps heal the wound.

My heart aches for you atheist/agnostic types. I wish you all the best and pray God’s blessings on you and that his will works through people put in your path. Saul could not resist his calling and I expect neither can you all. Please have a great night and I wish you all the best in your life. Not trying to be petty or judgmental as I am a flawed human being myself. Words from an unworthy man saved by grace.

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Please cipher Ezekiel...isaiah and Daniel into understandable current events then.... We'll debate if necessary

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Originally Posted by OldRook
Ejp. Small minds worry about such things.



Well at least you're not condescending.


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I wonder where and why the saying "God Fearing" came from. An almighty and loving god. Hmmmm


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Originally Posted by Oldman3
For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God.
To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. .


Is not your God also beyond your comprehension?

yet the common/convenient train of thought with christians, is If they dont understand something
they just default and attribute it to a man made concept of a God.






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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Oldman3
For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God.
To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. .


Is not your God also beyond your comprehension?

yet the common/convenient train of thought with christians, is If they dont understand something
they just default and attribute it to a man made concept of a God.



Didn't OM also describe an argument from personal incredulity, which is a logical fallacy?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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I’m shocked no one posted this yet.


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Originally Posted by hanco
This is proof


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Yep! Just God and her boob doctor....


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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For years I have been pondering the ultimate proof of creation. I found it. Whether one accepts it or not does not change the fact any more than saying gravity doesn't exist. The proof is that Absolute morality exist.


All morality is retaliative. Absolute morality is as much a myth as your god.



You dunce. Do you not see that you just stated a moral absolute---the absolute that all values are relative. Or rather, the moral absolute that there are no moral absolutes.

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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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Originally Posted by Ringman
For years I have been pondering the ultimate proof of creation. I found it. Whether one accepts it or not does not change the fact any more than saying gravity doesn't exist. The proof is that Absolute morality exist.


All morality is retaliative. Absolute morality is as much a myth as your god.



You dunce. Do you not see that you just stated a moral absolute---the absolute that all values are relative. Or rather, the moral absolute that there are no moral absolutes.


"There are no moral phenomena at all, but only a moral interpretation of phenomena."

Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil part 4.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Ejp. Small minds worry about such things.



Well at least you're not condescending.


That was very condescending.



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Morality is a human construct. Nature cares not in the slightest about suffering, whether a lion eats a lamb while it's still alive, or a child is left to die of starvation.

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
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Originally Posted by Oldman3
For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.


I think a lot more people could believe in a GOD. Not the man made religious "God". But if it gives you comfort that is great.


Religions are man made.


Yes they are! Look how many religion's there are and look at when they were basically accepted as founded. Every person in each of those religions swears it is the only true religion. Believe whatever gives you comfort.


Making that statement is like saying, "If you shoot a gun, you are a murderer." Sounds like something a democrat would say.

Not every religion/denomination believes what you stated. I'm not going to preach a sermon, but I will say that I dont believe you should paint everyone the same, just because they believe in God.


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Pope John Paul II (1996) affirmed evolutionary theory in his message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, but rejected it for the human soul, which he saw as the result of a separate, special creation.

The Church of England publicly endorsed evolutionary theory (e.g., M. Brown 2008), including an apology to Charles Darwin for its initial rejection of his theory.

That was very condescending.

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