Its like a Savage..yeah I KNOW they shoot well...but they still say Savage or Mossberg on them and I can't get past the stigma that carried for decades...
And being a Creed sure does't help...
That's spelled "doesn't"
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Meh, I don't mind giving the Creed a shot. I'll either like it or I won't, but I certainly didn't 'need' it. I figure this one's cheap enough that it doesn't matter what I ultimately decide. At this point, I think the kids will certainly get some use out of it and I don't mind the gun so far.
Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
I was doing some housekeeping today and took a few pics of the Mossberg next to a Howa .223 and Weatherby Vanguard .308, both in Bansner stocks. This will give some visual reference of the stock on the Patriot Predator since there isn't a whole lot real-world user info out there.
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Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
Our local Bi-Mart has the TC bolt action Crudmores for $220. Thought I'd buy one and see if I liked the rifle and/or the chambering. At that price, it can be made into legally disposable pieces with the bandsaw if I don't like it and have any trouble getting rid of it.
Got mine today. Thanks for the tip....I think. I definitely see the weak link is the plastic mag and plastic mag insert that goes between the stock and action and the action screws go through the insert. Wish it was some kind of composite....but it's just plastic. We'll see how long it lasts.
Overall....not bad for $280 + $200 for Superchicken + $80 for rings = $560 total.
May need to break out the JB bore paste. Ran a brush through it several times followed by patches and could not get them to come out clean before I gave up. Probably worrying too much about it.
Also wondering if anybody is going to engineer a better mag for this rifle and a better stock or mag insert. There should be tons of these rifles out there. I'd be in on an aluminum mag insert and a better mag.
This rifle is awfully tempting. The design of the mag/insert sounds pretty terrible. Wouldn't stop me from buying one at the price point, but it would be nice to have the option to improve it with aftermarket parts.
I have a T/C Compass I bought on a whim at a crazy deal price. With a little work on my part, it's turned into a very reliable and accurate shooter. However, it has one of the cheap plastic mags with a cheap plastic locking feature built into the mag. I can't see relying on this rifle for anything serious. If that little plastic tab breaks, there goes the rifle.
If there was an option to replace the factory stock with a nicer version that became a blind magazine I feel it would be an upgrade over ultra cheap, plastic parts that create single point failures.
This rifle is awfully tempting. The design of the mag/insert sounds pretty terrible. Wouldn't stop me from buying one at the price point, but it would be nice to have the option to improve it with aftermarket parts.
I have a T/C Compass I bought on a whim at a crazy deal price. With a little work on my part, it's turned into a very reliable and accurate shooter. However, it has one of the cheap plastic mags with a cheap plastic locking feature built into the mag. I can't see relying on this rifle for anything serious. If that little plastic tab breaks, there goes the rifle.
If there was an option to replace the factory stock with a nicer version that became a blind magazine I feel it would be an upgrade over ultra cheap, plastic parts that create single point failures.
Someone needs to engineer an aluminum part that accepts AICS mags to replace the plastic mag insert. I don't believe it would be difficult for anybody with a CNC machine and design program that knew how to use it.
Decided to swap scopes and give it a thorough cleaning, so I took a few pics of the components so folks could see what 257heaven is talking about. The owners manual doesn't provide an action bolt torque, but it seemed to be around 25-30 in-lbs per my Fatwrench. I later checked the interwebs and found references to 25 in-lbs, so that's where I set it upon reassembly. Components:
I adjusted the trigger down, which is a single-screw affair. I don't have a trigger pull gauge but I'll guess that it's around 3 lbs. now. There is a little bit of creep.
The recoil lug and stock fit:
Here is the magwell/spacer insert and magazine. As previously noted, it's just plastic and nothing special.
Figured I'd try a Nikon M-Tactical 3-12X42, just because. I used the same Warne low height rings and it appears that it could be mounted lower without issue. It added about 4 ounces of weight.
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Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
Picked up a TC Compass at Bi Mart just before Christmas.. on sale for $200.00 in 6.5 Creedmoor...
going to play with it, when I get around to order some dies for it... I don't do store bought ammo...
The rifle is decent for being a lower buck model of any rifle...I sure like it over a Ruger American... Trigger is kinda heavy, but no creep... safety had to be more with a pair of pliers the first time I handled it... Comes with a threaded barrel for putting a moderator or can on the end of it.. stock was better than some of the other low dollar ones I've picked up to play with..Savage Axis, Ruger American.. definitely better than a Stevens stock...fit was as good as a factory synthetic on an ADL Remington... Came with Weaver style scope bases on it...
hey, for $200 bucks, I think it is a darn good value...I'll play with it, and then it already has a home it'll go to.. a disable Marine Vet buddy, who saw Iraq and Afghanistan a couple of times...
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My T/C Compass in .308 was not much to look it. With a little work on handloads it’s a pretty good shooter, and a rattle can paint job improved the stocks appearance (at least in my opinion).
Hey John, pick up a trigger spring kit from M Carbo for that Compass. It is an easy upgrade that really helps that trigger pull.
Yes, the spring change is critical. I forget where I purchased my spring, but with the spring change then some very light polishing the trigger went from serviceable you pretty nice.