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For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.

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I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.


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If someone could "scientifically" prove creation or the existence of God, then believing in them would no longer require faith.



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


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Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Ringman
For years I have been pondering the ultimate proof of creation. I found it. Whether one accepts it or not does not change the fact any more than saying gravity doesn't exist. The proof is that Absolute morality exist.


So we die, lie in the ground and are somehow brought back to life? is that not some form of wizardry or witchcraft?


Was it witchcraft when HE spoke the heavens into existence, or spit in dirt and breathed the spirit of life into it?

I dont understand it, but I can see the prophecies of Him and His profits having been fulfilled.

Good will become evil...

In the latter days men will be exchanging wives...

Israel will regain her homeland...

Jerusalem and the Temple Mount will be restored...

Israeli enemies will try to drive her into the sea...

Israel will be carried to safety as though by the wings of an eagle...Israel's impossible victory over a moslem force 10 times bigger in the 6 day war...

Knowledge will explode over the earth...

Then 4 blood moons in a row on Hebrew Holy Days and Trump is swept into power against impossible odds just in time to save the world from the Hillbiotch and NWO...

Trump alone has not the IQ or wherewithall to accomplish alone what is being accomplished, IMHO, Gun.



I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


I dont think your Mom lied to you. Do you?

Did you have to prove the benefit of obeying you to all you told your kids to do?

How would you like your little kids not believing in or having faith in you? And if they said to hell with you and rejected you?

We are nothing but little dumbassed kids HE made and loved, to HIM.

If HE gave us cold hard proof then asswholes like Hillary and Piglosi and Soleimani and Zero would believe and go to heaven. How would you like to spend eternity with them? Would you want them to go to Heaven too? grin

Wouldnt really be Heaven, would it?

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Originally Posted by jaguartx


I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


I dont think your Mom lied to you. Do you?

Did you have to prove the benefit of obeying you to all you told your kids to do?

How would you like your little kids not believing in or having faith in you? And if they said to hell with you and rejected you?

We are nothing but little dumbassed kids HE made and loved, to HIM.

If HE gave us cold hard proof then asswholes like Hillary and Piglosi and Soleimani and Zero would believe and go to heaven. How would you like to spend eternity with them? Would you want them to go to Heaven too? grin

Wouldnt really be Heaven, would it? [/quote]


How would you like your little kids not believing in or having faith in you? And if they said to hell with you and rejected you?

My kids have faith in me because I am real! Not some man made story. They can see me, touch me, hear me, talk to me, and they know me. If they rejected me I would question what I did to make them reject me, but that has never happened yet.

We are nothing but little dumbassed kids HE made and loved, to HIM.

Oh great so we are just dumb little kids he likes to play games with. Interesting!

f HE gave us cold hard proof then asswholes like Hillary and Piglosi and Soleimani and Zero would believe and go to heaven. How would you like to spend eternity with them? Would you want them to go to Heaven too?

So many things I could say here. Doesn't the bible and your man made religion say not to judge? If he gave us hard proof and even just mild proof don't you think people in their right minds would actually really buy into it? Don't you think if we had actual real proof and not some bulls_t stories and a bunch of people telling us we have to have faith that people would be mean, evil, and have a million other man made religions?

Wouldnt really be Heaven, would it?

I don't know and neither do you!

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Originally Posted by smokepole
If someone could "scientifically" prove creation or the existence of God, then believing in them would no longer require faith.



How would that be a problem?

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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Originally Posted by gunner500
I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Ringman
For years I have been pondering the ultimate proof of creation. I found it. Whether one accepts it or not does not change the fact any more than saying gravity doesn't exist. The proof is that Absolute morality exist.


So we die, lie in the ground and are somehow brought back to life? is that not some form of wizardry or witchcraft?


Was it witchcraft when HE spoke the heavens into existence, or spit in dirt and breathed the spirit of life into it?

I dont understand it, but I can see the prophecies of Him and His profits having been fulfilled.

Good will become evil...

In the latter days men will be exchanging wives...

Israel will regain her homeland...

Jerusalem and the Temple Mount will be restored...

Israeli enemies will try to drive her into the sea...

Israel will be carried to safety as though by the wings of an eagle...Israel's impossible victory over a moslem force 10 times bigger in the 6 day war...

Knowledge will explode over the earth...

Then 4 blood moons in a row on Hebrew Holy Days and Trump is swept into power against impossible odds just in time to save the world from the Hillbiotch and NWO...

Trump alone has not the IQ or wherewithall to accomplish alone what is being accomplished, IMHO, Gun.



I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


I dont think your Mom lied to you. Do you?

Did you have to prove the benefit of obeying you to all you told your kids to do?

How would you like your little kids not believing in or having faith in you? And if they said to hell with you and rejected you?

We are nothing but little dumbassed kids HE made and loved, to HIM.

If HE gave us cold hard proof then asswholes like Hillary and Piglosi and Soleimani and Zero would believe and go to heaven. How would you like to spend eternity with them? Would you want them to go to Heaven too? grin

Wouldnt really be Heaven, would it?


No, I don't believe Mom would ever lie to me.
I didn't have to tell my kids anything Jag, I left them in the bottom of a can at a fertility clinic in Houston back in the 80's! grin
Faith and believing in ones self or others comes from ""seeing"" actions first hand with their own eyes, the reason most of wanted to be like our daddys, we could see how cool, strong, and how much they knew.
I've got to get to that worship deal Jag, I don't worship or beg anyone or anything, if my Wife wanted to leave, hell yes, I would miss her dearly everyday for the rest of my life, would I beg her to stay?, hell NO!


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!



If God was telling me in my head to do something and Gunner was telling me to do something else. I’m gonna do what G5 said I should do...I will work out being conflicted later in my safe space....LMAO 😂😎


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by gunner500
I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!



If God was telling me in my head to do something and Gunner was telling me to do something else. I’m gonna do what G5 said I should do...I will work out being conflicted later in my safe space....LMAO 😂😎


Bwahahaha, good thing we don't rate high enough for God to tell us a damn thing Big Buddy, and yes, if I hollered THERS A FUGGIN ELK IN THE ROAD!!!, Lock that sombitch up! grin


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by gunner500
I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!



If God was telling me in my head to do something and Gunner was telling me to do something else. I’m gonna do what G5 said I should do...I will work out being conflicted later in my safe space....LMAO 😂😎


Bwahahaha, good thing we don't rate high enough for God to tell us a damn thing Big Buddy, and yes, if I hollered THERS A FUGGIN ELK IN THE ROAD!!!, Lock that sombitch up! grin


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by gunner500
I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!



If God was telling me in my head to do something and Gunner was telling me to do something else. I’m gonna do what G5 said I should do...I will work out being conflicted later in my safe space....LMAO 😂😎


And you have much better evidence that Gunner actually exists.

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Originally Posted by Oldman3
For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.


Looking at nature and reading a Bible are not the same thing.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by gunner500
I've read some, and have been taught a lot of that in Church as a kid Jag, I'm looking for some stone hard fact, I cant get there without hearing Mom say, just have faith son. crazy


Bingo.

Gunner, if some god took care of us and answered prayers, we wouldn't need rough me like you to straighten things out.



Yeah, if He would just come here as a person and perform incredible miracles, everyone could believe.


LOL Gents!



If God was telling me in my head to do something and Gunner was telling me to do something else. I’m gonna do what G5 said I should do...I will work out being conflicted later in my safe space....LMAO 😂😎


And you have much better evidence that Gunner actually exists.


Yes, that, and being struck by Gunner is something that would require a miracle to survive. And, I am far from being a pussy. 😎


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Originally Posted by Oldman3
For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.


God is the one who walked away and allowed all those pedophiles, especially the Catholic priests to molest innocent children. Don't even get me started on cancer in children. This is all 100% on God. He could of easily stopped it all from happening.


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God is the one who walked away and allowed all those pedophiles, especially the Catholic priests, to molest innocent children. Don't even get me started on cancer in children. This is all 100% on God. He could of easily stopped it all from happening.
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For the life of me, I cant understand how anyone can look at all the wonders of nature and not believe in God. To believe that all of nature is nothing more than an accident is beyond my comprehension. As for the bad things in life, I believe man, as a whole, has brought that on himself. As man continues to turn away from God, things will continue to get worse, and it effects all of mankind, not just who we think should be punished or effected.

The Bible says my job is to witness and bear fruit, not to judge. So, I'm not judging those that don't believe, the Bible says that's God's job. I have a hard enough time, just doing what I'm suppose to do.


Looking at nature and reading a Bible are not the same thing.


Depends on which scriptures you read: “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge” (Psalm 19:1–2)

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Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by smokepole
If someone could "scientifically" prove creation or the existence of God, then believing in them would no longer require faith.



How would that be a problem?


Church would get real crowded.



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