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OK you pilots out there. Who among you would fly at your top speed in near zero visibility in a copter rated at 178 mph? And at 2400'?
https://www.google.com/search?q=sik...548j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
There were two reported eyewitnesses at a Presbyterian church across the canyon from the crash site. Neither reported high speed. One witness heard the copter and thought it was struggling.
Where does this bullshit come from?

From my background, I was pointing out things that need to be looked at. It appears that the helicopter hit relatively vertical, as the main wreckage appeared to be somewhat contained. There did appear to be some minor wreckage scattering along the hillside, and the tail rotor appeared to be separated from the main wreckage. There are a lot of possibilities, and, not being part of the investigative crew, I cannot say for sure. There was another helicopter flying in the area taking pictures for the news while the first responders were on the scene.

We had an air squad temporarily (1 year) assigned to us in the east end of L.A. County. We used to give the pilots crap when the news copters were up and they were not flying, preferring to wait up to a couple hours for visibility. It didn't happen often but I thought their perspective was interesting compared to what they would do during brush fires and night rescues with NVG.

Witness. This is why there will be no vid, too much fog to see anything.

helicopters should never be flown in poor visibility (night) I don't think the military recommends it.

the MSM does an incredibly poor job of reporting these types of things, very similar to gun issues

it really is astounding how dumbed down the MSM has become

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. (we really need a sarcasm font) but military aviation is really good at analyzing risk/benefit and we flew in some pretty dreadful conditions when we had to. It's hard to see that a flight to a charity ball game is mission critical though. It will be a high profile NTSB investigation and those guys do a very good job in breaking it all down. Who, what, where and why to the extent that they can.

Yeah, the youtube flight videos are all hoaxes. The two witnesses from the church couldn't even tell what color the chopper was from the pea soup it was flying in.

The military is trained for that kind of flying and they still have trouble.. remember when they took out Osama. they lost a helicopter..

That guy is a great witness.

Please read the thread. That ain't it....

I did read the thread. Hence the word "purported".

WRONG. If that were true over half my flight time wouldn't have happened.

Kobe + daughter, Coach + wife and daughter as reported the 5 deaths on the copter. Where is the pilot? I have heard nothing about the identity of the pilot. Was Kobe the pilot?

More info on pilot

https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/kobe-...nd-payton-chester-identified-as-victims/

Where's the fog?

Where is the mountain?

The crashed helo is in a valley.

That right there is some funny stuff. Why on earth would I have an instrument (1969) and CFII rating in choppers that dates back to 1970? Why would my flight log books have so much night flight time logged? One of my primary missions in '72 was Night Hawk with B/229th AHC and that's all I did for about 3 months. How can that be?